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Old 07-15-2016, 12:52 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Does the Nice terror attack solidify Brexit?

There seemed to be a lot of second-guessing and regret after the vote and plans to invoke Article 50 were delayed. Many commentators opined that the UK wouldn't actually leave. Since a big part of Brexit was "we don't want open borders" (or at least "we want only semi-open borders on our own terms"), does something like the Nice attack reenergize the pro-Brexit crowd?
I don't think it solidifies anything, but it's certainly a reminder that Europe isn't problem-free. Also, a reminder that arguably the barbarians (in part a rationale for Brexit) are at the gates.
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Old 07-15-2016, 02:27 AM
 
Location: England
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The Brits did a lot of bad stuff, but India is the world's biggest democracy. Would it have been that without the British legacy?
The rule of law in India is based on the UK model. We left behind much good, along with the bad.
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Old 07-15-2016, 02:30 AM
 
Location: England
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Does the Nice terror attack solidify Brexit?

There seemed to be a lot of second-guessing and regret after the vote and plans to invoke Article 50 were delayed. Many commentators opined that the UK wouldn't actually leave. Since a big part of Brexit was "we don't want open borders" (or at least "we want only semi-open borders on our own terms"), does something like the Nice attack reenergize the pro-Brexit crowd?
The Brexit crowd have never needed re-energizing. We want out, and are willing to pay the short, and long term price. We want control of our borders, and immigration that we need, not for anyone in Europe that want to come.
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Old 07-15-2016, 02:34 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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I don't think it solidifies anything, but it's certainly a reminder that Europe isn't problem-free. Also, a reminder that arguably the barbarians (in part a rationale for Brexit) are at the gates.
The warning signs about the EU have been patently obvious for years, and Britain was always on the sidelines of Europe, we didn't want open borders and wouldn't sign the Schengen Agreement, we would join the Eurozone and adopt the Euro, we had to be exempt from any further political intergration in relation to a Federal Europe and we made it clear that our national sovereignty was paramount in relation to all such issues.

Obviously we now have to try and negotiate some form of trade settlement with Europe, and we have some significant hurdles to overcome but the EU is so corrupt and inept that the electorate just had enough.

With the possible exception of Germany most major Eurozone economies are in some sort of crisis, just look at France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Greece and even Finland etc, so even if the UK economy does have a few rough years ahead it will still be in a better situation than many Eurozone economies.

It's difficult to see how the Euro and Eurozone are going to keep going and the current social problems highlighted by tragic recent events may see a move to more right wing politics in many European Countries and more calls for referendums in relation to continued EU Membership.

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