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Old 06-26-2016, 07:21 PM
 
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Usual suspects up to their usual crap. Different day same behavior over and over again. I just don't understand why its so difficult for black people to have a large gathering and simply have a good time without a fight or worse break out.

Up here in Toronto I was just at an event this weekend called Taste of Asia which is a mostly Chinese event but with other South Asians there as well. A big street festival with lots of food and entertainment and a TON of people there. The whole time that I was there, I'm not even sure I saw one police officer there to patrol the event and everyone was just having fun and enjoying the food etc. What a great event it was and despite the difficulty of walking through a huge crowd that in some places was shoulder to shoulder, there wasn't one problem AT ALL. Just everyone being polite, patient and respectful. This is how it always is at asian events like these and many non-asian events as well. People having a good time and not causing much trouble.

Contrast those events to Caribana which is a predominately black event here and HOLY CRAP the amount of police presence required to keep the crowds under control is MASSIVE. Like literally this event could not happen if there wasn't a high police presence as well as many private security personnel there to keep things under control. As I said I just don't get why blacks can't get together and have fun like everyone else does without so much supervision to prevent something bad from happening.
Do you really compare taste of Asia which attracts a few thousand people to Caribana that attracts 1 million+ People and one of the largest parades in North America?
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Old 06-26-2016, 07:22 PM
 
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Usual suspects up to their usual crap. Different day same behavior over and over again. I just don't understand why its so difficult for black people to have a large gathering and simply have a good time without a fight or worse break out.

Up here in Toronto I was just at an event this weekend called Taste of Asia which is a mostly Chinese event but with other South Asians there as well. A big street festival with lots of food and entertainment and a TON of people there. The whole time that I was there, I'm not even sure I saw one police officer there to patrol the event and everyone was just having fun and enjoying the food etc. What a great event it was and despite the difficulty of walking through a huge crowd that in some places was shoulder to shoulder, there wasn't one problem AT ALL. Just everyone being polite, patient and respectful. This is how it always is at asian events like these and many non-asian events as well. People having a good time and not causing much trouble.

Contrast those events to Caribana which is a predominately black event here and HOLY CRAP the amount of police presence required to keep the crowds under control is MASSIVE. Like literally this event could not happen if there wasn't a high police presence as well as many private security personnel there to keep things under control. As I said I just don't get why blacks can't get together and have fun like everyone else does without so much supervision to prevent something bad from happening.
Lmao, the things that are posted...
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Old 06-27-2016, 02:58 AM
 
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Yes, the guy that confronts race baiting propaganda posted anonymously online by closeted white nationalists..
Hmmm ... this apparently means something ... to you.

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Old 06-27-2016, 07:05 AM
 
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Did something bad happen? You didn't say one way or another.

Police presence doesn't mean something bad happens automatically. Police presence could be due to attitudes towards a certain race... like those violent Blacks as you describe.
Toronto's Caribana parade is the ONLY large event that I know of here that has had numerous incidents of violence, injury and even a few murders over the years happen before, during or after the event. So NO this is NOT police's racist attitude towards black people as alot of people would like to believe. This is a RESPONSE to the violence that Caribana has had in its past.

Its like one level of security was implemented and when it was found to be not enough, the next year they added even more personal security and police and so on and so forth. Namely the violent incidents at the parade prompted a stronger security presence the next year and the year after etc. because to not do so you would be guaranteed the public would be blaming the police for providing inadequate security if something should happen at the event.

For most every other festival or street event here, the police presence has been relatively little because of their lack of history of violence over the years. So higher levels of security at a predominately black event has NOTHING to do with race and EVERYTHING to do with providing enough manpower that will keep the public safe and in this case that amount is ALOT of manpower and resources.

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The incident level? Well last year there was NONE. And lets not forget that often when we talk about incidents involving minorities, we are talking about minor crap blown out of proportion. Yes 20 police we involved - to beat the crap out of two guys in a fist-fight? We can't use incidents like that and call Black people or other minorities "violent". The police were WRONG and why are you using that to manipulate the truth? (Not you, this is a general statement).
Maybe where you live the amount of violence at events is low which is great to hear, but that's not the case here in Toronto and with Caribana. Its the ONLY major event that draws hundreds of thousands of people that I can recall where people were shot and even killed along with a number of other incidents where people were stabbed and had to go to the hospital. So this isn't just one or two incidents over many years that you can write off as random occasional violence. This is a particular group of people that often have young males come armed with guns and knives and have no problem to use them if someone should offend them in some way.

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I find you whole post smacks of "model minority" race baiting anyway. I took the bait - on purpose. It interesting how whites keep this up - holding up Asians like a nerf bat, because they simply don't want Asians to combine with the rest of the ethnic races - against them. You give them preferential circumstances and treatment - and then as if its some big secret, try to use them as an example of "higher class". Well when other minorities get the same treatment throughout life that the Asians are getting, THEN we can talk. Until then that point is... pointless.
First off I don't think alot of asians like being around certain people and that's their choice based on their dealings with those people in the past. Second you make it sound like asian people were treated very well from the get go when that is VERY incorrect. Many people didn't like asians in the past and many don't even now, but the thing is I believe most people can at least respect them for their work ethic and maybe just as importantly if not more important the fact that they don't cause much trouble or crime no matter where they settle.

And also I've NEVER said asian people are perfect nor any non-black group for that matter. What I AM saying is that on a day to day basis, living with non-black people is most definitely more peaceful, less dangerous and much more safer than it is with black people. And Caribana very clearly shows that where the one single predominately black event in Toronto has violence issues that require a large security presence compared to every other predominately non-black event that doesn't require a similarly large security presence.

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Do you really compare taste of Asia which attracts a few thousand people to Caribana that attracts 1 million+ People and one of the largest parades in North America?
If you want to compare similarly sized events, then how about the gay pride parade and Taste of the Danforth? Both events draw 1+ million people as well every year and how many violent incidents have happened in those two events over the last couple of decades? Extremely few and I certainly don't remember anyone getting shot and/or killed at either of those events.

I go to Taste of the Danforth nearly every year and there's probably more cops there to direct traffic than to be there to keep people safe. With the pride parade very little happens there too during the event where people are just there to have fun peacefully. The same can't be said for Caribana where if they had as little security as Taste of the Danforth, that event will have a VERY HIGH probability of getting violent and out of control very quickly. I'm sure both the public and police would love for Caribana to not need very much security personnel there, but the fact is that won't happen because based on the history of that event, that's just asking for trouble.
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Old 06-27-2016, 07:29 AM
 
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How is this thread even considered a current event? It look more like an attempt to race bait online...
If it had been an older white guy getting beaten up, pulled out a gun and shot one of them....you'd have started the thread.

THEN I guess it would be an acceptable current event.

I guess the lesson there would be that people start all kinds of threads when they think their agenda is valid.
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Old 06-27-2016, 08:23 AM
 
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I can't believe the moderators haven't closed this thread.
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Old 06-27-2016, 08:43 AM
 
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My experience has been that whenever there's a low priced outdoor event or events that allows coupon discount admission draws the worst types of citizens and all kinds of bad manners disorderly behavior follows. If you go on a full fare price date or higher priced ticket, you see just middle class families, complete change of demographics.

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Old 06-27-2016, 08:48 AM
 
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Yeah, this stuff happens out on the left coast as well. That's why I no longer go to cheap carnivals.
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Old 06-27-2016, 09:17 AM
 
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I personally think the woman laughing in the video is the worst part. It sounds to me like she is saying, "My son is hurt so bad.", yet she's laughing about it? Let alone laughing as some sort of brawl.

Of course if they were members of a motorcycle club the headlines would be about a "Biker Brawl", newspapers, (this video is from a NJ newspaper) have "headline editors" who I think get their training at the National Enquirer. This really doesn't look like much of a brawl, more of a little fight and it seems as soon as the State Police showed up everything was calm.

Toward the end of the video, it sounds more like she said, "My stomach hurts so bad right now". To me, it seemed she was saying that her stomach hurt from laughing. And certainly the laughter was inappropriate to the circumstances.

It's hard for me to understand why everyone seems to think it's incumbent on them to record these incidents. I have a phone with a camera-capability but the last thing I would think about is to film this type of activity - I'd be too busy trying to remove myself and my family/friends from the area so not to get caught up in it.
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Old 06-27-2016, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Birmingham, Alabama
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It has to be embarrasing for the majority of the black race. This is not how they are. But these events and these disturbances are what makes the news. If I were a black man, i would not own a TV.
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