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Old 06-26-2016, 08:37 AM
 
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Russia To Build Spy Base in Nicaragua | Q Costa Rica

The deal between Moscow and Managua, which will also involve the sale of 50 Russian T-72 tanks, comes as President Putinís regime ramps up the pressure on Nato in eastern Europe
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Old 06-26-2016, 09:38 AM
 
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Russia To Build Spy Base in Nicaragua | Q Costa Rica

The deal between Moscow and Managua, which will also involve the sale of 50 Russian T-72 tanks, comes as President Putinís regime ramps up the pressure on Nato in eastern Europe


The closest Nicaragua comes to the United States is Florida - which is 700 miles away. And between Nicaragua and Florida is Cuba, so a 'spy base' (whatever that even means) gives the Russians precisely nothing that it doesn't already have vis-a-vis the United States - to say nothing of the fact that Russian electronics eavesdropping ships and aircraft are free to approach within 12 miles of the American coast, and do, just like Soviet ships and aircraft did back in the day (and just like American ships and aircraft do wherever it is deemed useful to do so).

Are we supposed to be afraid that those 50 second-generation tanks will fight their way north, over a thousand miles through tropical rainforest and over mountain ranges, across three countries - Honduras, Guatemala, Mexico - and invade Texas? Maybe people who saw 1984's Red Dawn and thought it was totally realistic.
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Old 06-26-2016, 12:13 PM
 
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The closest Nicaragua comes to the United States is Florida - which is 700 miles away. And between Nicaragua and Florida is Cuba, so a 'spy base' (whatever that even means) gives the Russians precisely nothing that it doesn't already have vis-a-vis the United States - to say nothing of the fact that Russian electronics eavesdropping ships and aircraft are free to approach within 12 miles of the American coast, and do, just like Soviet ships and aircraft did back in the day (and just like American ships and aircraft do wherever it is deemed useful to do so).

Are we supposed to be afraid that those 50 second-generation tanks will fight their way north, over a thousand miles through tropical rainforest and over mountain ranges, across three countries - Honduras, Guatemala, Mexico - and invade Texas? Maybe people who saw 1984's Red Dawn and thought it was totally realistic.
State of Texas vs. 50 T-72 tanks?

I would actually buy the pay-per-view to see that.
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Old 06-26-2016, 12:26 PM
 
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Been a hundred years since I was up to speed on that region (think Ollie North and the Sandanistas), but strategically I would think in terms of regional influence rather than an overt assault on Texas.

Honduras and Guatamala are not economic powerhouses in the region (one or the other was the second poorest nation in the hemisphere, after DomRep) and are subject to externally-fomented instability.

And no one should forget the attempt the KGB made on Mexico back in the 70s - right when Vlad was starting his career as a foreign officer in the KGB's First Directorate. (And when Obama was a kid smokin' dope with his surfer buddies in Hawaii.) The KGB's plot was stopped by pure luck - and an astute, elderly constable walking home after a long day at work.

There is a plethora of reporting that suggests Putin is trying to regain Russia's place as a counterbalance to western influence around the world - a concept the current administration doesn't understand. No better place to accomplish that very mission that in Central America.

I would spend my time worrying about that rather than a Russian invasion of Laredo.
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Old 06-26-2016, 12:51 PM
 
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Haha, that's funny. BTW, can anyone explain why Ukraine and Romania should be in NATO anyway? It's not like they have coastline on the North Atlantic, or anything. What's the justification for that?
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Old 06-26-2016, 12:54 PM
 
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And no one should forget the attempt the KGB made on Mexico back in the 70s - right when Vlad was starting his career as a foreign officer in the KGB's First Directorate. (And when Obama was a kid smokin' dope with his surfer buddies in Hawaii.) The KGB's plot was stopped by pure luck - and an astute, elderly constable walking home after a long day at work.
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Could you elaborate on this please? This is news to me.

Guatemala at one time had one of the stronger economies in Mesoamerica, and was rising. The Dulles brothers and a US-engineered coup put an end to that, tragically.
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Old 06-26-2016, 12:59 PM
 
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Haha, that's funny. BTW, can anyone explain why Ukraine and Romania should be in NATO anyway? It's not like they have coastline on the North Atlantic, or anything. What's the justification for that?
The US needs to base aircraft there to operate its No-Fly Zone in Russia.
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Old 06-26-2016, 01:00 PM
 
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Maybe Russia can stabilize Central America and stem the flow of poverty to the USA.
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Old 06-26-2016, 01:08 PM
 
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Haha, that's funny. BTW, can anyone explain why Ukraine and Romania should be in NATO anyway? It's not like they have coastline on the North Atlantic, or anything. What's the justification for that?
Then again, neither does turkey.
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Old 06-26-2016, 01:10 PM
 
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Maybe Russia can stabilize Central America and stem the flow of poverty to the USA.
lol. If the Russians are known for anything its stability and prosperity.
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