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Old 06-28-2016, 07:54 PM
Status: "Basking in my white and height privilege" (set 11 days ago)
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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4 black not cool kids.
2 white not cool kids.
2 white cool people.

Yeah, I get that most of you think it's petty that people would count, but this is the kind of thing that leads to peoples misconceptions.

We aren't sensitive to it because we don't live it, but that doesn't mean it's not a valid complaint.
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Old 06-28-2016, 08:35 PM
 
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People are sensitive to it because people are too sensitive. There's a BIG difference between being sent to the back of the bus, not being able to sit at a lunch counter or being denied a job,having seporate fountains and some dumb arse poster.

White guilt and hyper sensitivity need to stop if we're ever to all get along.
White guilt, there is a laugh. People do "racist" things all the time and have no real idea they are doing them. And then there are people who do them on purpose. It just *is* that way.

White guilt...me? LOL Thats actually funny.

As I said, it isn't *just* the poster. Its media in general, its built into the fabric of American culture. And if you are brave enough to call it out, you are called names. If thats all ya got...
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Old 06-28-2016, 09:51 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Sure, we've come a long way but we are not there yet. Things like the swimming poster are the dregs of racism, and racism, whether blatant or subtle, must be eradicated.

The swimming poster essentially says white people do good things and black and Hispanic people do bad things. The people who don't see this in the poster are the people who have already incorporated the 'white good/black bad' into their subconscious. Therefore, they see nothing wrong with it.

Also, I don't know what you mean by white guilt. I don't feel guilty about anything.
YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED! IT IS USELESS TO RESIST!

So, would you admit that it could be the people who DO see racism in this poster are just hyper sensitive and looking for racism in all the wrong places... (hey, that reminds me of a good country song )

Yep, I've been waiting for someone to figure out that the Red Cross were really Klan backed and sending subconscious messages to infect our youth and rally the masses.

C'mon, really? I'd bet there was no ill intent meant when that poster was created.
What probably happened is the Corporate P.C. Police Officer on duty stepped out for his vegan smoothie break and this particular swim poster got past without his/her/lbgtqurps or whatever's stamp of compliance approval.
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Old 06-28-2016, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Outside of Chicago
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I'm more focused on the levitating whale that can not only speak English and seems to know proper poolside behavior, but can survive out of water...than any racist message.
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Old 06-28-2016, 09:57 PM
 
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I think it denotes some unconscious racism or just plain old prejudice on the part of the artist who created the poster. That said- the artist could be black. We don't know. It was almost certainly not a purposeful thing.
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Old 06-28-2016, 09:58 PM
Status: "A delicate snowflake with the vote of a wolverine." (set 11 days ago)
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Racist? Good grief. Although I didn't count everyone, there was at least one white kid misbehaving and a black lifeguard. Get a life people.
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Old 06-28-2016, 10:24 PM
Status: "Basking in my white and height privilege" (set 11 days ago)
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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I also doubt there was ill intent. But this kind of thing goes on and it's very subtle and sends a message.

It's like when Time magazine took OJ's photo and darkened it. Or similar to specific word choice to sway the public opinion about something.

I'm in marketing and have worked with politicians and advertising agencies and see this kind of thing all the time.

I'm the first to call b.s. on much of what's going on in the world today, but this is valid. And pretending it's the other guys fault by blaming them for being hypersensitive is also a form of subtle manipulation, not unlike what I'm talking about. In fact, it's very much like that.
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Old 06-28-2016, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I'm more focused on the levitating whale that can not only speak English and seems to know proper poolside behavior, but can survive out of water...than any racist message.
That was the first thing I noticed too.
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Old 06-29-2016, 01:43 AM
 
Location: Long Neck , DE
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Why are we so sensitive anymore There were kids playing in the pool. I am sure we would have also had complaints had there been no black kids.
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Old 06-29-2016, 06:12 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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So, would you admit that it could be the people who DO see racism in this poster are just hyper sensitive and looking for racism in all the wrong places... (hey, that reminds me of a good country song )
No, I wouldn't admit that at all.

This poster is particularly nefarious because it's aimed at children. Children can be pretty literal. When they see something adults do or say, children take it at face value. When children see or read signs that show 'white = good and black = bad' they will incorporate that into their subconscious. What we see around us as children greatly affects our world view.

Racism and bigotry are learned behaviors.
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