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Old 07-04-2016, 07:31 AM
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Location: New Jersey
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The man was unarmed and killed in front of his family.

N.J. man shot, killed by off-duty cop after alleged road rage attack, reports say | NJ.com

Old 07-04-2016, 07:42 AM
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But didn't the "unarmed" "innocent man" enter the officer's vehicle and start punching him? In the head? You know you can kill someone or cause great bodily harm by punching them in the head right?
Old 07-04-2016, 07:44 AM
Location: Las Vegas
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My question is how did this escalate to the point of the guy getting out of his car punching the off duty officer? I would have to know more about this before I form an opinion.
Old 07-04-2016, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MJJersey View Post
Well, as the article is pretty clear in describing; he was busily punching the cop through an open window after getting out of his own car to do so........er, wouldn't that shooting be termed self defence?

Sure the cop could have just driven away, sure he didn't need to roll down his window, sure he could have displayed some identity, given a warning that he was armed and would defend himself if attacked, sure he could have don all of those things but, where is the legal obligation to do so after being confronted with someone not responsible enough in his behaviour to refrain from punching someone in full view of his wife and child in the car?

Aggressive physical action should be the last resort used by anyone and only in a self defence role. Defaulting to punching someone due to a highway confrontation is the stuff of the intellectually challenged and a practiced "bully".

There will be more on this item I'm sure but unless some contrary facts emerge to change my stance, I'm going with "play stupid game, win stupid prizes" on this one.
Old 07-04-2016, 07:54 AM
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I'd still expect from the officer to be a professional and just shoot him from his legs or some other part that wouldn't result in his death you know.
Old 07-04-2016, 07:55 AM
Location: louisville
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This is a wait and see situation but at face value, most of us will fall back on our default positions in regards to self defense, confrontation, and police action.
Old 07-04-2016, 07:58 AM
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Off-Duty NYPD Officer Shoots, Kills Man Who Pummeled Him During Road Rage Confrontation: Police | NBC New York

more about the incident. it happened in Brooklyn. The off duty cop might not have been able to simply drive away. Streets in the boroughs are very congested.
Old 07-04-2016, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by MJJersey View Post
Nice try at bashing a cop.

At this time it appears legit
Old 07-04-2016, 08:07 AM
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I'd shoot them too if I was getting pummeled in the head. Bashing someone in the head is the easiest way to give someone lifelong brain damage, paralysis, or death. Pretty sure even a non-police officer would have done the same thing.
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