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Old 07-06-2016, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Rutherfordton,NC
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In the picture the girls are covered up not exposed they are wearing jackets. You can go into town & see more skin then at Hooters same with the beach or a pool. Hell, even a family place like the YMCA.


As other's have said it's more likely a mom whose over weight is miffed ONLY, because she doesn't look as good as the girls who work there do.


Just because Hooters is sponsoring the scouts doesn't mean you have to take your child there.


Get real. People should be more worried about the two idiots of one is about to be our next president.
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Old 07-06-2016, 09:37 AM
 
Location: The analog world
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Actually it is one more reason I wont let my son get involved with scouting. If you think it helps your organization, you are mistaken.

Again, it wasnt about what they were wearing that day. It is about them drilling in a booby bar brand into the kids heads. Not ok.
I'm truly sad to hear that my local council's poor judgement call has turned you off to Scouting, but I suspect that you already had a laundry list of reasons why Scouting is not for you. I can only offer this as a mother and long-time Scouter myself: the Boy Scouts of America is not a perfect organization, and it is struggling to find its place in a culture that is changing rapidly and no longer seems to value civic engagement. I find that tragic. Despite all of the upheaval I've witnessed in the past two decades, I still believe that Scouting offers something unique and important to young people. My husband, sons, daughter, and I have all grown as individuals, family members, and citizens through Scouting. We have learned to value nature and worked to preserve it, met difficult physical challenges, explored vocations and avocations we did not know existed, traveled to extraordinary places, and developed lasting friendships. I know of few other organizations that can offer the kind of purposeful fun that Scouting does, and I'm sad to see this latest controversy distract from the incredible organization of mostly volunteers who make it all happen.

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Old 07-06-2016, 10:04 AM
 
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I'm truly sad to hear that my local council's poor judgement call has turned you off to Scouting, but I suspect that you already had a laundry list of reasons why Scouting is not for you. I can only offer this as a mother and long-time Scouter myself: the Boy Scouts of America is not a perfect organization, and it is struggling to find its place in a culture that is changing rapidly and no longer seems to value civic engagement. I find that tragic. Despite all of the upheaval I've witnessed in the past two decades, I still believe that Scouting offers something unique and important to young people. My husband, sons, daughter, and I have all grown as individuals, family members, and citizens through Scouting. We have learned to value nature and worked to preserve it, met difficult physical challenges, explored vocations and avocations we did not know existed, traveled to extraordinary places, and developed lasting friendships. I know of few other organizations that can offer the kind of purposeful fun that Scouting does, and I'm sad to see this latest controversy distract from the incredible organization of mostly volunteers who make it all happen.
Yeah the child molestation and homophobia were the main reasons why I wont let my son be involved. But this adds to my impression that it isn't the organization for us and doesn't represent our values as a family.
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Old 07-06-2016, 10:10 AM
 
Location: CT
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Again, I will LOL at this.

*Any* business that gives money like this is not doing it out of sheer altruism. To hold Hooters to a standard that NO OTHER BUSINESS would be held to is ridiculous.

And, again I will say that if the parents are offended at who or what entity gives money, they should get off their duffs and fundraise or volunteer their own time. Or, just pay the unsubsidized price of summer camp out of their own pocket, and not have to take the chance of being "offended". Me thinks that would raise more than a couple of hackles.
I agree with you 100% that the most vocal critics are usually the people who contribute to the organization the least. As far as businesses giving only for publicity or marketing, I am not in complete agreement. Does anybody donate out of pure altruism? Don't most people claim charitable donations on their income tax? I was on my son's troop's fundraising committee and many local businesses never asked for a thing other than to contribute to a good cause, we acknowledged their contribution to the members and families of the troop because they deserved it.

BTW- I should add, some of our parents were employed by a local casino, the casino offered to hold a fundraiser for the troop, as a committee we decided that although we weren't there to judge the morality of gambling, it wasn't in the spirit of scouting's mission and beliefs. So we respectfully declined, maybe that might have been a better choice for the troop in Denver but you need to participate in order to be heard.

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Old 07-06-2016, 10:16 AM
 
Location: The analog world
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You know, HFB, when you speak about BSA, you're not really talking about a few people sitting in an office building in Texas, you're talking about me, my sons, my husband, my daughter, and the dozens of wonderful yet imperfect people who volunteer hundreds of hours every year to our troop without any expectation of even a thank you. People I know. None of us has ever molested a boy or said an unkind word about a gay person (my own brother is gay). There are so many things that are running through my head right now, having read through the incredibly rude things being said about Scouts and their family members in this thread, but I have made an oath to be courteous and kind, so I'll leave it at that.

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Old 07-06-2016, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Somewhere in Colorado
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Meh... Better Hooters than RJ Reynolds.
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Old 07-06-2016, 10:27 AM
 
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Why is Hooters even still an issue? I can go to the store any day of the week and learn more about female anatomy from tight shirts and yoga pants than I can at Hooters...
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Old 07-06-2016, 11:01 AM
 
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It has nothing to do with what they were wearing the day of the event. It is that it is marketing a booby bar to children. That is what sponsorship is about. I worked in marketing. It is marketing 101! Branding kids, so that the kids have brand recognition. If they really cared, the would have given money and not sent their hooters girls to get the interest of the kids.
Really? A booby bar? It's a restaurant on par with TGIFridays that employs -slightly- provocatively dressed waitresses instead of Friday's servers in striped vests covered with random buttons. The old fashioned car hops on roller skates at a '50s drive-in restaurant were far sexier and provocative in their push-up bras, fitted sweaters, and fitted slacks or bouncy skirts than the girls at hooters.

Whatever you do, PLEASE promise to never take your children to the beach on a European beach holiday. Topless is the standard in most warm climates.
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Old 07-06-2016, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Many Hooters girls are mothers. They probably thought helping a good youth organization would be a positive.

A few uptight parents (fat moms) wrecked it. But its okay when LGBT organizations contribute and get to the lead the packs. SMH.
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Old 07-06-2016, 11:14 AM
 
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You know, HFB, when you speak about BSA, you're not really talking about a few people sitting in an office building in Texas, you're talking about me, my sons, my husband, my daughter, and the dozens of wonderful yet imperfect people who volunteer hundreds of hours every year to our troop without any expectation of even a thank you. People I know. None of us has ever molested a boy or said an unkind word about a gay person (my own brother is gay). There are so many things that are running through my head right now, having read through the incredibly rude things being said about Scouts and their family members in this thread, but I have made an oath to be courteous and kind, so I'll leave it at that.
I did speak of the organization, not the specific members. So its really up to you if you want to take it personally.
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