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Old 07-05-2016, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Originally Posted by Mathguy View Post
What a bunch of heartless ghouls piling on a tragedy because it involved a gun.

I actually know someone that saved the life of themselves and their child from a felon because they had a gun.

I guess using this threads logic we could find someone murdered by a home invader that failed to protect themselves and mock them like many of the posters here are doing?

Sick, sick people.
It's an accountability issue. The father didn't put safety first, and the son paid with his life.

 
Old 07-05-2016, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Denver
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People take their kids to the gun range all the time. This guy didn't kill his son on purpose. Was he stupid for not putting his gun down first then hunting around for the casing? yes. I think you people forget that the justice system doesn't need to punish this father in this case. He will live the rest of his life knowing what he did to his son. And I believe that is punishment enough.
NO.
You can't base justice system on emotions.
Then all murderers who kill and realize they did wrong would be punishment enough.
 
Old 07-05-2016, 12:33 PM
 
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NO.
You can't base justice system on emotions.
Isn't that exactly what you are doing though?
 
Old 07-05-2016, 12:33 PM
 
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Tragic. Accidents happen. Personally, I do not like guns. They are loud, dangerous, and the laws in NJ where I live make it very scary to even bring them to a range to practice. With that said, I fully support 2nd amendment. I own firearms. I own them to protect myself and my family if I ever need to. I also have insurance on my cars, house, health (which the govt says I have to have) extra food and water in case of emergency, generator, flashlights, kerosene heater, etc. As for guns, When seconds matter, police are minutes away
 
Old 07-05-2016, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Originally Posted by breeinmo. View Post
I'm with you and surprised you're the only one to state the obvious. "Hey, I did a irresponsible thing and killed my kid, now give me money". I'd be so devastated and ashamed, I wouldn't take a penny from anyone who offered. Working harder to pay the costs for my dead child, would be part of the punishment I'd impose on myself.
Who knows, it could be elaborate plan (I know/hope it's not, but for the sake of discussion) to amass $$$$.
Nowadays, any tragedy brings in $$$$ from GoFundMe.
 
Old 07-05-2016, 12:34 PM
 
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Originally Posted by NOLA101 View Post
If what you are saying is true (and I seriously doubt it is true), then why does this thread even exist?

It is completely impossible to discuss a topic of gun violence without discussing guns.
Discuss gun handling safety - it's a good issue.
But that's not your agenda is it? Mods will get to this in time, essentially you are wasting space, because your comments, and probably mine, will be deleted.

Anyways for examples (go to last post in thread for mod comments):
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Mom shot dead by toddler while driving down the road
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Gun-loving mom shot by her 4yo while driving - Florida
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2 thugs attack a 65 yr old and his wife in Philly, thugs get shot
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Teen shoots family because he doesn't want to get up for school
 
Old 07-05-2016, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Isn't that exactly what you are doing though?
I'm just hoping. I'm not giving punishments cause I can't.
If I were a judge, yes it counts but I'm not so I am really hoping that guy gets a long jail time and never allowed to own a firearm ever.
Anything less and it just proves that gun owners are letting go off easily without any serious consequences.
I expect the same thing if I shoot and kill someone innocent, accident or not.
 
Old 07-05-2016, 12:40 PM
 
Location: southern kansas
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I'm just hoping. I'm not giving punishments cause I can't.
If I were a judge, yes it counts but I'm not so I am really hoping that guy gets a long jail time and never allowed to own a firearm ever.
Anything less and it just proves that gun owners are letting go off easily without any serious consequences.
I expect the same thing if I shoot and kill someone innocent, accident or not.
That part I would agree with.
 
Old 07-05-2016, 12:46 PM
 
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Who knows, it could be elaborate plan (I know/hope it's not, but for the sake of discussion) to amass $$$$.
Nowadays, any tragedy brings in $$$$ from GoFundMe.

Oh please you are just posting a bunch of stupid stuff. Your not the judge of what happens to this guy.
 
Old 07-05-2016, 12:47 PM
 
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That part I would agree with.
I could list a case or two where criminals who violated federal firearms laws were not punished, for purposely doing what they did, that resulted in the deaths of others. If criminals aren't punished, why punish the negligent?
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