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Once it is passed, it will stay that way as a personal choice for a number of years.
Then it will become an standard of care option: If you have disease XYZ, you can have treatment A, treatment B, or you can take this pill and die.
Then, it will become standard of care: If you have disease XYZ, you take this pill and die, no treatment necessary.
Think it is far fetched? Think about it. It is the government -- not the medical community that is allowing it. It is a LAW that seems like a "choice."
Once it is passed, it will stay that way as a personal choice for a number of years.
Then it will become an standard of care option: If you have disease XYZ, you can have treatment A, treatment B, or you can take this pill and die.
Then, it will become standard of care: If you have disease XYZ, you take this pill and die, no treatment necessary.
Think it is far fetched? Think about it. It is the government -- not the medical community that is allowing it. It is a LAW that seems like a "choice."
Seriously, think about it.
Do you know anyone who has used this law? That's not the way it works where it's legal.
you dont know anyone;s personal situation and whats in their brain and heart, i would never criticize anyone who chose this route, i know personally i wouldn't ever give in no matter what, jimmy v said never ever give up.
Do you know anyone who has used this law? That's not the way it works where it's legal.
Right now. Watch it evolve into standard of care. That is my point. It is a stepping stone to standard of care.
Did you know that the new heart guidelines are about what drugs to give people? It doesn't define illness levels, it just says if patient has A,B and C, give him X drug. If he has E,F, and G give him this drug.
This was after years of lowering the BP limits until normal BP was considered hypertension (and in need of drugs). Now, it's not even hypertension its just "give this drug to any patient who has ..."
Standard of care evolves. And while this end of life stuff seems like a gift .... watch it over the years. See where it goes. That's all I'm saying.
Right now. Watch it evolve into standard of care. That is my point. It is a stepping stone to standard of care.
Did you know that the new heart guidelines are about what drugs to give people? It doesn't define illness levels, it just says if patient has A,B and C, give him X drug. If he has E,F, and G give him this drug.
This was after years of lowering the BP limits until normal BP was considered hypertension (and in need of drugs). Now, it's not even hypertension its just "give this drug to any patient who has ..."
Standard of care evolves. And while this end of life stuff seems like a gift .... watch it over the years. See where it goes. That's all I'm saying.
Fine, this is OT anyway and not the place to discuss it. But looking at other countries who have had this for awhile, so far your hypothesis has not been proven.
Once it is passed, it will stay that way as a personal choice for a number of years.
Then it will become an standard of care option: If you have disease XYZ, you can have treatment A, treatment B, or you can take this pill and die.
Then, it will become standard of care: If you have disease XYZ, you take this pill and die, no treatment necessary.
Think it is far fetched? Think about it. It is the government -- not the medical community that is allowing it. It is a LAW that seems like a "choice."
Seriously, think about it.
This is the same sort of doom-and-gloom that social conservatives issue about every single advance ever proposed.
But, yes, let's think about it. Let's look at the real world and how it operates - compared to how those who cry wolf insist (invariably, wrongly) it will operate if the thing they dislike is allowed.
Democracy? "The unhinged rabble will be the end of us all!"
Allow women to vote? "Society will fall apart!"
Desegregate the military? "Unit cohesion will collapse!"
Allow interracial marriage? "The white race will be doomed!"
Legalize abortion? "Next thing you know, it'll be mandatory!"
Same-sex marriage" "The institution of marriage will fall apart!"
Seriously. This slippery-slope nonsense is just that. It's like saying that lowering the speed limit to 55 mph was inevitably going to lead to a 1 mph speed limit, or that any taxation at all will inevitably lead to confiscation of all earnings. Not only is it not logical, it has demonstrably been shown and over and over that the slippery slope fallacy is called a fallacy for a reason.
Ummmm.....I suppose they give her adequate pain relief? Of course, not Vicodin, she might sell it to drug addicts
People with chronic, painful conditions have been cut off from adequate pain relief due to the misuse by others. I recently had an RX for Vicodin denied by a pharmacy, they insisted it was a fraudulent RX. It was from a hospital ER, but because it was 3 am on a Saturday, they figured I was somehow scamming. I told them to call the ER to verify, they said they did, I asked who they spoke with, they said they didn't remember, I said that they were required to document anything involving a controlled substance. I asked for the RX back, they said they had destroyed it, I reminded them a controlled substance is on a triplicate form, they are required by law to keep their copy so it matches with the DEA's copy. I suggested they were keeping the drug themselves and "documenting" it went to me, while denying it to me at the same time. My DH went over and demanded the RX, somehow they found it, we filled it at another pharmacy. BTW, I had a broken lower spine...guess that's not enough to justify such pain relief
I don't know this poor girl's entire story, but I doubt they are granting he adequate pain control and the family doesn't have the resources to fight it. Narcotic pain relievers are so sought after most doctors hesitate to prescribe them for any purpose outside the hospital. I even had a doctor advise me to have a safe in my home----which I do---to store what I get. I also scrape the labels and shred the pharmacy papers, etc. Unfortunately, there are times strong narcotics are indicated, much stronger than Vicodin, but they are rarely prescribed due to the black market involvement, etc. I pray this girl changes her mind! While there's life, there's hope
you dont know anyone;s personal situation and whats in their brain and heart, i would never criticize anyone who chose this route, i know personally i wouldn't ever give in no matter what, jimmy v said never ever give up.
my motto is 'that's why you keep fighting'.
Until you've been chronically critically ill for a period of time or known someone that was up close and personal....I think you'd be lacking in the life experience to know for sure.
I say this because I used to think like you but I've seen enough people worn down and with no quality of life change their minds.
Ummmm.....I suppose they give her adequate pain relief? Of course, not
I don't know this poor girl's entire story, but I doubt they are granting he adequate pain control
You are guessing and projecting.
Not really sure what you hope to accomplish with that.
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