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Old 07-23-2016, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Do you genuinely lack the ability to understand the concept of free speech?

Voltaire; I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
There isn't a concept of free speech, only an interpretation as allowed by the law.... including the US.

F*** Voltaire, someone makes fun of my kids for a few dollars and free drinks, I'd hurt them myself if I knew I could get away with it.

Maybe you should ask a few survivors of the Nazi era, if they would defend with their lives, the rights of the brownshirts to express their views -Voltaire's is an airy fairy view really, entirely dependent on the situation. Great for people who feel safe behind the veneer of a civil society, but worthless dribble when the goo hits the fan.

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Old 07-23-2016, 10:19 PM
 
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There isn't a concept of free speech, only an interpretation as allowed by the law.... including the US.

F*** Voltaire, someone makes fun of my kids for a few dollars and free drinks, I'd hurt them myself if I knew I could get away with it.

Maybe you should ask a few survivors of the Nazi era, if they would defend with their lives, the rights of the brownshirts to express their views.
Pretty sure the Nazis weren't sitting around telling jokes.

Remember what I said about New York liberals? You remind me of them. "I'm so tolerant that I'll kill you if you make fun of someone!"
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Old 07-23-2016, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Pretty sure the Nazis weren't sitting around telling jokes.

Remember what I said about New York liberals? You remind me of them. "I'm so tolerant that I'll kill you if you make fun of someone!"
Oh they would have been telling jokes alright, you can be pretty certain of that.

I'm not particularly tolerant in that regard -might be getting your wires crossed there.
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Old 07-23-2016, 10:25 PM
 
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Oh they would have been telling jokes alright, you can be pretty certain of that.

I'm not particularly tolerant in that regard -might be getting your wires crossed there.
I know, that's what's hilarious about liberals. They're actually extremely intolerant about everything, which is why everyone laughs at their "I just care!!" routine.
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Old 07-23-2016, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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I know, that's what's hilarious about liberals. They're actually extremely intolerant about everything, which is why everyone laughs at their "I just care!!" routine.
Pay less attention to liberals, and learn more about factors that can enable a Nazi regime.

Don't be just another drone getting worked up over liberals or conservatives.
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Old 07-24-2016, 06:39 AM
 
Location: NY in body, Mayberry in spirit.
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Jokes are fine, but mentioning specific individuals (even kids) isn't -or would you be cool with me making explicit jokes about your 5 year children?



You're happy with people verbally attacking individual nine year olds for money, yet you live in a country where at any time, you could be seized off the street, wrongfully convicted and murdered by the state -sounds like you let the government decide right from wrong for you. Obviously not someone who truly understands liberty.

Americans discussing freedom is a comedy skit.
And a Kiwi discussing, well...ANYTHING, is obviously a waste of everyone's time.
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Old 07-24-2016, 06:53 AM
 
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How about a comedy skit about having sex with 5 year olds? -I guess that's okay as well?
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So you agree that comedy clubs charging money for jokes about sex with 5 years, should be able to operate if they get the patronage?
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So you're fine with comedy skits about sex with 5 year olds then? - customer is always right I guess?
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Jokes are fine, but mentioning specific individuals (even kids) isn't -or would you be cool with me making explicit jokes about your 5 year children?.
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Got any dirty jokes about kids?

Ummm, a little too preoccupied with the whole 'sex with 5 yr olds' scenario, aren't you?
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Old 07-24-2016, 06:56 AM
 
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I think most Americans feel it is up to the pubic to decide (by patronizing the comedian) than the government to decide what we can and can't say.

I just can't imagine a government like that for the simple reason that I don't think of the government as a ruling class. I can say what I want and I want others to have that right as well. If someone thinks I am ugly, they have the right to call me that.
Then perhaps you can imagine this:

Forbes Welcome

or this:

Second teen spends months in jail for video game threat | The Daily Caller

or this:

5 Texas Teens Face Charges after Confessing to Spray Painting 'Whites Only' Over School Drinking Fountain
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Old 07-24-2016, 07:25 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Glad to live in a country with free speech.
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Old 07-24-2016, 07:49 AM
 
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And one more reason why we're also glad you're not a Canadian. We don't want anyone here who delights in bullying the weak and defenceless under the guise of 'speech freedom'.

As for the weather and food. The weather ain't for wusses and we are healthier and live longer for various reasons. Not chowing down the stuff Americans have made Golden Corrals famous for probably chief among them.
Did you not read what he said? He said he doesn't agree with making fun of disabled people or the weak but thinks we should have the freedom to say what we please. I like how you decry bullying in one sentence and then hint around that Americans are wusses in the next.
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