Victims suffering side effects from cervical cancer vaccines that were once recommended by the government.

[TXNGL]

Originally Posted by Nancy Hertle

I knew a woman that developed ovarian cancer and died a few years later. She had a historectomy all except the ovories. What a terrible thing to happen. Wasn't that a low blow that Doctors don't watch that kind of thing.

Ovarian cancer is one of those that they call "a silent killer". Once they find it it's often too late. So sorry about your friend. Cervical cancer (and HPV) is different.

[MissTerri]

Originally Posted by suzy_q2010

Neurologists who do not know that case reports do not prove causation should keep their mouths shut until they educate themselves. They are not vaccine experts.

You know very little about their knowledge base and experience with their patients. I don't know what makes you think that you are qualified to tell them to "keep their mouths shut and educate themselves". They are highly qualified and highly educated.

Japan's vaccine policies have resulted in outbreaks with injuries and deaths.

US policies to keep DPT on the schedule after Japan pulled it from theirs resulted in a sizeable number of brain damaged children who suffered serious vaccine injuries from that dangerous vaccine.

Kudos to Japan for taking a more cautious approach.

[MissTerri]

Originally Posted by Katarina Witt

Exactly re: both bolds.

As for the neurologists, there's a saying in healthcare that generalists know nothing about everything, and specialists know everything about nothing. That's a joke but there's a grain of truth in it. If you want to talk to someone knowledgeable about vaccines, talk to the primary care doctors-the pediatricians, family practice docs, the OB-gyns, especially for this vaccine; the internal medicine docs; infectious disease docs.

Some neurologists are very specialized, even in neurology. Some may only treat certain types of brain tumors. Now if I had one of those tumors, that's who I'd want. But for information on vaccines, I'll take the first group any day.

Re:Japan, I agree completely with Suzy_q. Japan is the only country that has such a recommendation.

That's a really weak argument for discounting what these neurologists who have actually worked with the vaccine injured girls have discovered.

But since you seem insistent that generalists who administer vaccines are somehow the experts simply because they administer them then here's one OBGYN who does not agree that HPV vaccines are necessary.

HPV Vaccine: A Strong Criticism from Leading Israeli OBGYN Doctor - Press Release - Digital Journal

The CBCD has learned that Dr. Uzi Beller, “an international authority on gynecological cancers who treats patients on a daily basis (1)”, came out publicly against vaccinating 65,000, 14-year old girls in Israel with Gardasil (1). Dr. Beller voiced his criticism of Gardasil vaccination at “a meeting in Tel Aviv 10 days ago (with) 40 leading experts on gynecology, oncology, women’s health, vaccines and other specialties (1).”

[MissTerri]

Family points to Gardasil vaccination after daughter's health decline

Georgia takes medications to control the symptoms. Florinef is one of them and she said it makes her hallucinate.

Carolyn has pages of physician notes that point to Georgia’s POTS and the “frequent flares of fatigue” as one document describes. And there’s this one study published in a scholarly journal called Vaccine linking the HPV vaccine to POTS.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25882168

In a population referred for symptoms of orthostatic intolerance and other symptoms consistent with autonomic dysfunction that began in close temporal association with a quadrivalent HPV vaccination, we identified a 60% prevalence of POTS. Further work is urgently needed to elucidate the potential for a causal link between the vaccine and circulatory abnormalities and to establish targeted treatment options for the affected patients.

[ebbe]

This was reported in a study from researchers from U of British Columbia:

Study on brain tissue of two girls who died of cerebral vasculitis reveals that Gardasil crosses blood-brain barrier and causes vasculitis. Brain tissue also stained positive for many HPV antigens.

[coschristi]

Originally Posted by bluedevilz

So by your own admission you never vaccinated teens or pre teens?

And you think an investigation needs to be launched regarding syncopal episodes in this population after vaccination?

VAERS includes reports of syncopal episodes but it will of course be woefully under reported....it is so common that most providers are not going to report it

Reports from the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) shows that fainting after vaccinations is common in adolescents. One study of VAERS reports found that 62% of syncope reports were among adolescents 11 to 18 years old. However, because syncope may not always be reported, VAERS data cannot be used to determine how often fainting happens after vaccination.
Fainting (Syncope) Concerns | Vaccine Safety | CDC

I am saying that I have not vaccinated teens or pre-teens since 1999.

VAERS in itself; is "woeful" because it's not a mandatory reporting system. It's a voluntary reporting system.

I have personally witnessed serious events that were not reported to VAERS by a provider, who also forbade the staff to report it, because they were afraid of reprecussions.

"Studies of VAERS reports" are even LESS viable. They remind me of a over-zealous fundamentalist christian that comes up with a biblical quote to justify how much more "right" they are than everybody else. Playing with numbers...

But if while reading VAERS (as lame as it is) one finds that prior to 1999, syncope post vaccination was rare; that becomes statistically significant & as such; does warrant investigation.

[MissTerri]

Originally Posted by ebbe

This was reported in a study from researchers from U of British Columbia:

Study on brain tissue of two girls who died of cerebral vasculitis reveals that Gardasil crosses blood-brain barrier and causes vasculitis. Brain tissue also stained positive for many HPV antigens.

Thanks for posting this ebbe. Here is a link to the study.

https://www.scribd.com/document/1135...ral-Vasculitis

[SusanG_O]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KklrjbQZ-Ns

[rodentraiser]

Originally Posted by MissTerri

From the op's link: : According to health ministry figures, 2,022 people suffered side effects out of an estimated 2.59 million who had received injections of Cervarix by the end of 2014. Out of an estimated 790,000 people given Gardasil 453 experienced side effects.

I am assuming here that you are dismayed because those 2022 and 453 people suffered side effects out of the total number of people vaccinated, am I right?

If 2022 people out of 2.59 million have side effects from Cervarix, then your chances of having a side effect are .0780694%.

As for Gardasil? Your chances of having a side effect after getting that vaccine are .0573417%.


Not 7% or 5%, but .07% and .05%. In other words, without rounding up, 1/20th and 1/14th of 1%.

Women make up 50.8% of the population of the US. That's about 162,606,155 women in the US. Of those 162,606,155 women, the breakdown is as follows: birth to 17: 23.1%; 18 to 34: 22.6%; 35 to 64: 39.7%; 65 and over: 14.6%.

The median age for men and women getting HPV associated cancers are as follows:

• 49 years for HPV-associated cervical cancer
• 67 for HPV-associated vaginal cancer
• 66 for HPV-associated vulvar cancer
• 68 for HPV-associated penile cancer
• 60 among women and 57 among men for HPV-associated anal cancer
• 61 among women and 62 among men for HPV-associated rectal cancer
• 62 among women and 59 among men for HPV-associated oropharyngeal cancers

What's interesting about this is very, very few HPV associated cancers show up in the group aged from birth to 17 years old. What this means is that out of the 38,793 HPV associated cancers diagnosed yearly, those cancers are spread across the upper age groups.

As the younger age group, those aged under 17, receive their vaccinations, that means that as they move up into their respective age groups, the cancer and death rates from cancer associated with HPV will start to drop. The rate probably won't go to zero because, as we've pointed out over and over and over and over again, no vaccine is 100% effective.

Currently, out of the 23,000 women who are diagnosed with HPV associated cancer yearly, 11,955 women were diagnosed with HPV associated cervical cancer. Out of those 11,955 women, 4217 of them died.


So right now we are comparing side effects to deaths.


From the CDC:

Has anyone died after receiving an HPV vaccine?

Some deaths among people who received an HPV vaccine have been reported to VAERS. This does not mean that the vaccine caused the death, only that the death occurred after the person got the vaccine. CDC and FDA review all available information on reports of death following all vaccines, including HPV vaccines.
From June 2006 through September 2015, when about 80 million doses of HPV vaccine had been given out in the United States, VAERS received 117 reports of death after people received the Gardasil vaccine. Among the 117 reports of death, many could not be further studied because there was not enough information included in the report to verify that a person had died. In 51 of the reports, CDC reviewed medical records, autopsy reports, or death certificates and verified that the person had died. After careful review of every reported case of death that has happened after Gardasil vaccination, CDC concluded:

• There is no diagnosis that would suggest Gardasil caused the death
  • There is no pattern of death occurring with respect to time after vaccination
  • There is no consistent vaccine dose number or combination of vaccines given among the reports

With Gardasil, women stand a .0573417% of a side effect.

A woman's chances of getting cervical cancer alone from an HPV associated virus is .0096689%, far less than the number of side effects she'd get from the vaccine.

So you'd think it would make sense not to get the vaccine, right? Not so fast.

Without the vaccine, if a woman is one of the 11,955 women diagnosed with cervical cancer, her chances of dying from it are 35%.

It's sort of like flying on an airliner. Air travel is safe compared to driving in cars because the number of deaths associated with flying are so many less than the number of deaths from car accidents. But that's the number of deaths.

If you are one of the several hundred people in an airliner going down, what are your percentages for dying as opposed to your percentages for dying in a car wreck right before it happens? Lots higher, more than likely. Like, maybe close to 100%.

Before you have the wreck, flying is safer. When you're in the wreck, the chances of dying are higher. Same with HPV vaccines when it comes to cervical cancer. Before you have the cancer, if you get the vaccine, your chances of having a side effect is higher than your chance of getting the cancer. But if you do get the cancer, your side effect from the vaccine is way, way lower than your chance of dying.

And cervical cancer is only ONE cancer you can get from an HPV associated virus.

[nei]

random chart on the impact of vaccines

https://twitter.com/DataIsBeautiful/...78656940146688