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We are a nation of laws. Period. Everyone deserves due process. Detaining someone and reporting him to the police is as far as any person should go. After that you are guilty of assault and, in this case, manslaughter.
"What was missing from Nunez’s account, according to reports, was what witness Rebecca Baggett told police she saw happen that night: a woman jump on the back of a man, knock him to the ground, then punch him multiple times."
Imagine if a police officer was seen doing this to an unarmed 64 year old man? The other day I almost left Walmart with an item in my cart after using the self-checkout aisle. I said "oops!" then turned around and paid for the item. Glad these 3 didn't jump on top of me for missing a 50 cent apple pie.
"We are a nation of laws. Period. " What a nice slogan. But if we really relied on courts for discipline we'd have anarchy.
Instead we have vigilantes who will kill an old man over a few hundred bucks worth of DVDs stolen from a multi-billion dollar corporation.
I disagree with the employees' actions, but I disagree way more with the idea that it's more acceptable to steal from some people or that it mitigates the theft if you have money or other malarkey.
No one's life is worth a DVD or an appliance, but it's the crook that makes his life worth that, not the people being violated or witnessing the violation.
I suppose next time you jaywalk or come to a rolling stop or go a few miles over the speed limit, you should be executed, right? You know who does that? Groups like ISIS and the Nazis.
Committing a crime isn't cause for vigilante execution. Never, unless a life is directly threatened and there is literally no other option.
It is so disappointing and sad that that so many people will not agree with you.
I have 12 years of post-high school higher education in a very competitive field, and I still have to deal with people who break the law, hurt others, rape, murder, maim, lie, cheat, steal, and even personally threaten and assault me...there's no getting away from these people unless you live in a bubble.
I can see anyone getting tired of how these people just walk around free getting away with everything.
I'm not sure what you're getting at. Are you saying the man got what was coming to him? Or that people get frustrated with shoplifters? I will remind you that violent crime is totally different from nonviolent crime. Shoplifting: illegal, but nonviolent. The gang assault/murder of the shoplifter: illegal and violent. Very violent, and uncalled for.
I'm not sure what you're getting at. Are you saying the man got what was coming to him? Or that people get frustrated with shoplifters? I will remind you that violent crime is totally different from nonviolent crime. Shoplifting: illegal, but nonviolent. The gang assault/murder of the shoplifter: illegal and violent. Very violent, and uncalled for.
No.
Did you read the post previous to this?
That we try to understand the desperation or environment that causes people to commit crime, but no one ever considers the psychic trauma of watching people around you consistently break rules and put other people's lives in danger or ruin things or make the world less safe, etc.
I can see people just snapping. I am a very calm person, but I nearly snapped the other day when a red light runner nearly hit my kids (4,2) for the fourth time in 8 days. Three times at the same light going out of our neighborhood.
And spare me, please. That man wasn't murdered. Involuntary manslaughter at best. You know...the same charge you get for slaying an entire family when you drink, drive, and crash.
I am flabbergasted by some of the comments saying he got what he deserved. He was running away and, as far as I can tell, didn't even have any merchandise on him. So what were they protecting?
In 1999 my home was burglarized and I wish the thieves were caught and punished. It was a very upsetting experience. Mostly, I wanted my personal belongings returned to me. They were never caught (which is usually the case) but I doubt if they were, they would have gotten the death penalty.
And spare me, please. That man wasn't murdered. Involuntary manslaughter at best. You know...the same charge you get for slaying an entire family when you drink, drive, and crash.
Really? Is that what the charge is in Florida?
[URL="http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/lauderhill/fl-lauderhill-triple-drowning-arrest-20160609-story.html"]Man, 24, faces homicide, DUI charges in January crash that killed 3 in Lauderhill
[/URL] "In addition to the vehicular homicide and manslaughter charges, Prince has also been charged with two counts of DUI first offense, two counts of DUI causing property damage, one count of having an unassigned license tag, and one count of driving an uninsured vehicle."
Here's another one:
[URL="http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/palm-beach/fl-wrong-way-triple-death-case-hearing-20160216-story.html"]Man serving nearly 33 years in DUI manslaughter wrong-way triple death seeks shorter prison term[/URL]
That we try to understand the desperation or environment that causes people to commit crime, but no one ever considers the psychic trauma of watching people around you consistently break rules and put other people's lives in danger or ruin things or make the world less safe, etc.
I can see people just snapping. I am a very calm person, but I nearly snapped the other day when a red light runner nearly hit my kids (4,2) for the fourth time in 8 days. Three times at the same light going out of our neighborhood.
And spare me, please. That man wasn't murdered. Involuntary manslaughter at best. You know...the same charge you get for slaying an entire family when you drink, drive, and crash.
Next time you see a red light runner, call the police then. If you'd like to go further, then start carrying a gun and taking out these red light runners and texters. However, take heed what'll happen given whatever your state and federal laws say about this.
I am flabbergasted by some of the comments saying he got what he deserved. He was running away and, as far as I can tell, didn't even have any merchandise on him. So what were they protecting?
In 1999 my home was burglarized and I wish the thieves were caught and punished. It was a very upsetting experience. Mostly, I wanted my personal belongings returned to me. They were never caught (which is usually the case) but I doubt if they were, they would have gotten the death penalty.
No, he didn't deserve death, but I am flabbergasted by all the people bringing up the fact that he didn't actually succeed in his attempted theft, as if that somehow makes him less of a criminal.
If your burglars had been caught in the act would you consider them any less guilty because they were unsuccessful in taking your stuff?
Again, they guy did NOT deserve death, but why keep bringing up the fact that he left his haul behind when he ran, it's a moot point. It's not as though he'd have been more deserving of death if had successfully taken the mdse.
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