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Old 08-10-2016, 01:47 PM
 
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It's about time someone would invent something like this at reasonable price at that, that parents of all walks of life could be covered.
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Old 08-10-2016, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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It's about time someone would invent something like this at reasonable price at that, that parents of all walks of life could be covered.
I saw on the news that one car maker, I don't recall which one, is working on a device that will be installed in all their cars that will remind people that there is a child in the back seat of the car. But in a case like this, the dad was drinking and he may have been too drunk to pay attention if there was such a device in his car.

In this case, I don't see how he wouldn't be held accountable for the death of the children. He chose to drink while having the responsibility of the care taking of two helpless lives in his hands. You just don't do that. Period.
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Old 08-10-2016, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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I saw on the news that one car maker, I don't recall which one, is working on a device that will be installed in all their cars that will remind people that there is a child in the back seat of the car. But in a case like this, the dad was drinking and he may have been too drunk to pay attention if there was such a device in his car.

In this case, I don't see how he wouldn't be held accountable for the death of the children. He chose to drink while having the responsibility of the care taking of two helpless lives in his hands. You just don't do that. Period.

It doesn't need to be installed in all cars. Parents with infants/toddlers can buy the seats.
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Old 08-10-2016, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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It doesn't need to be installed in all cars. Parents with infants/toddlers can buy the seats.
Just this model so far. It's the one I saw on TV. I don't have either a kid or a car so I don't really have a dog in this race. But speaking of dogs, it would work for those idiots who deliberately leave those in the car too I suppose.

GMC tries to prevent hot car deaths with rear seat reminder - TODAY.com
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Old 08-10-2016, 03:21 PM
 
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This guy was drinking all day, so, yeah, involuntary manslaughter.

But, how does CD feel about those parents who are harried and stressed out and tired, who forget their child in a blazing hot car resulting in death? I've heard several people say that there really shouldn't be criminal charges because (1) having to live with oneself is already horrible punishment (clearly it is; the guilt would be crushing), and (2) there would be no deterrent effect for other parents because children dying in these situations is never planned or premeditated; no one expects for this to happen. The guy in this case didn't plan on killing his kids either, but he planned on drinking. Is that any different from the stressed/tired people?
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Old 08-10-2016, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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This guy was drinking all day, so, yeah, involuntary manslaughter.

But, how does CD feel about those parents who are harried and stressed out and tired, who forget their child in a blazing hot car resulting in death? I've heard several people say that there really shouldn't be criminal charges because (1) having to live with oneself is already horrible punishment (clearly it is; the guilt would be crushing), and (2) there would be no deterrent effect for other parents because children dying in these situations is never planned or premeditated; no one expects for this to happen. The guy in this case didn't plan on killing his kids either, but he planned on drinking. Is that any different from the stressed/tired people?
I think so. Planning on drinking when you are taking care of kids is something over which you have control. Putting your kids in the car when you're drunk or there's a possibility you could get drunk because you're going to drink is a factor that could put the kids in harm's way.

Putting your kids with the possibility you might forget them is far less likely.

At least that's the way I see it.
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Old 08-10-2016, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Idiot - the mother was probably at work while this loser sat around getting drunk. The only consolation is that these babies are in Heaven and won't suffer having this moron as their father.
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Old 08-10-2016, 04:57 PM
 
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Idiot - the mother was probably at work while this loser sat around getting drunk. The only consolation is that these babies are in Heaven and won't suffer having this moron as their father.
Well if you care to read the article, the mother was out of the state visiting family
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Old 08-10-2016, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Another stupid parent. This guy should be charged with murder.



Two 16-month-old twins have died after their father allegedly left them alone in a hot car in Georgia.

The father, 24-year-old Asa North, was arrested and charged with involuntary manslaughter and reckless conduct on Friday, according to authorities.

After the children were pulled from the car, North attempted to revive his daughters by putting them in a filled inflatable pool behind their apartment, witnesses told police.




Dad Charged With Involuntary Manslaughter After His 16-Month-Old Twins Die In Hot Car - Inside Edition
No need for charges to be brought, because the children's mother will probably kill him.
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Old 08-10-2016, 11:20 PM
 
Location: Westwood, MA
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This guy was drinking all day, so, yeah, involuntary manslaughter.

But, how does CD feel about those parents who are harried and stressed out and tired, who forget their child in a blazing hot car resulting in death? I've heard several people say that there really shouldn't be criminal charges because (1) having to live with oneself is already horrible punishment (clearly it is; the guilt would be crushing), and (2) there would be no deterrent effect for other parents because children dying in these situations is never planned or premeditated; no one expects for this to happen. The guy in this case didn't plan on killing his kids either, but he planned on drinking. Is that any different from the stressed/tired people?
Every time something like this happens there seems to be a chorus of people who scream "this could never happen to me" which is the exact attitude that causes stuff like this to happen. You have to realize that stuff like this could happen to you, especially when you change part of your routine, and take active steps to avoid it.

The really judgemental people say something like "my child is always my number one focus", which is also dangerous. Far more kids die in auto accidents than in hot car deaths, for the sake of your kids driving should be your primary focus even when they're in the car.
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