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But I will say I have had several 6 year olds, mine, adopted, step, foster. Even the most delayed (he had brain damage) of them would have never done that to a baby. They all seemed to know to be gentle, caring, careful. Babies, puppies, kittens. It was not me teaching them that, it was innate. Some are more focused on that, some less. Of course there is guidance. But...none of them were ever close to be flipping a 2 week old baby like a rag doll. That is seriously scary. But if he was over heated, I wonder if he was impaired by the heat as well.
The mom sounds like a nut job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You do not leave little kids in a car!!! Or fail to realize they are dead!
I agree with everything you've said, although I can't say the heat and situation could not have caused the little boy to lose it and go after his sister, we just don't know.
I'd also add, in my humble opinion, this woman was just plain too damn old to have kids. But she apparently went right on having them into her 60's. IIRC there used to be limits on the ages of women accepted by fertility specialists for treatment, what in the world happened? I know it's a rhetorical question, con$idering the financial a$pect$ of such deci$ions. If they can pay, apparently, they can play.
“I was going to try no matter what,” she explained (via KXAN). “We had been trying too long and lost many. You’re sort of in denial.”
This comment brought a chill up and down my spine. I heard this over and over again when I was a health insurance claims adjuster when some of the women my company insured had used up their medical benefits for IVF treatment after multiple tries at IVF failed to take hold. They would hysterically scream and curse at me because I had to deny pre-approval of their claims for more tries at it. I even had a couple threaten me personally with beatings. One was so scary I had a big male coworker walk me to the bus stop for a week. Sane people don't act like that. Sane people who are ready to give love and care to a child accept the fact they cannot have a biological child and will adopt.
There is something wrong, in my opinion, with someone so obsessed in reproducing that they will become maniacal about it. This woman proves the theory. I blame the doctors when it gets to that point for not doing extensive mental health tests on people like her to see if they are mentally able to take on the responsibility of raising children before they help them with artificial means. Who knows how she treated the six year old that he was so angry at his sister for crying? That is not normal behavior in a child. Whatever her mental problem, she seems to have passed it on to one child she finally gave birth to at expense of another.
I thought back in the day, fertility specialists DID do psychological/mental evaluations on patients before they accepted them for IVF or other treatment. Have things changed? Is it now a case where every gynecologist is ( or fancies him/herself )a "fertility specialist" and will pretty much accept anyone who can pay for the privilege?
Just wondering, I just have a hard time wrapping my head around a scenario where a professional fertility specialist will help 60 yr olds have babies... and an even harder time imagining a 60 plus year old thinking she's going to have those kids regardless of being incapable of providing for them on a long term basis.
Oh forgive me...you have known people who went through infertility and adoption...
I also have friends who are black. Now I am an expert on segregation and racism. Nice.
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Indeed.
Maybe this poster just does not understand why fertility treatments is anything other then a boob job. Im guessing they don't have kids.
What...?
Are you defending the people that go nuts over fertility treatments?? Are you saying it's totally fine and acceptable for people to threaten others because they're going through "stressful" fertility treatments?
I agree with the poster--I have observed people who struggled to get pregnant, accepted it, and made rationale next steps. And I have observed people who struggle to get pregnant, and then become extremely irrational and deplete savings, ruin relationships and generally lose perspective on anything non-fertility related. And by then they are too tired, too poor and too broken to adopt. It's not healthy.
Both the mother and the boy clearly needed serious psychiatric help long before this happened...could have prevented this tragedy. The mother obviously had severe issues, probably excerbated by years of infertility and losses followed by her husband's death.
The boy was likely disturbed or had mental issues either from birth or acquired from being raised by this woman...Horribly tragic all around.
Lock that little **** up and throw the key away. If he's doing this at six he's going to be a danger to society. And let the bleeding hearts comment in 3, 2, 1
But I will say I have had several 6 year olds, mine, adopted, step, foster. Even the most delayed (he had brain damage) of them would have never done that to a baby. They all seemed to know to be gentle, caring, careful. Babies, puppies, kittens. It was not me teaching them that, it was innate. Some are more focused on that, some less. Of course there is guidance. But...none of them were ever close to be flipping a 2 week old baby like a rag doll. That is seriously scary. But if he was over heated, I wonder if he was impaired by the heat as well.
The mom sounds like a nut job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You do not leave little kids in a car!!! Or fail to realize they are dead!
He's a six year old locked in a hot car with a crying baby to compound the matter. That he went nuts is no surprise.
defending[/i] the people that go nuts over fertility treatments?? Are you saying it's totally fine and acceptable for people to threaten others because they're going through "stressful" fertility treatments?
I agree with the poster--I have observed people who struggled to get pregnant, accepted it, and made rationale next steps. And I have observed people who struggle to get pregnant, and then become extremely irrational and deplete savings, ruin relationships and generally lose perspective on anything non-fertility related. And by then they are too tired, too poor and too broken to adopt. It's not healthy.
Thank you. I have chosen not to respond to those who have behave exactly as those I have described adding their own spin by putting in words I never said. The best thing to do is to walk away from those who are so blinded by obsession they lash out at anyone whom they perceive as a threat.
I see your point, but how would the mother get the 6 y/o to tell such a convincing lie?
Fear. Intimidating. Abuse.
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