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Old 01-01-2017, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Shady Drifter
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If you are saying it shouldn't happen, I agree, but if you are claiming it doesn't happen I think there is ample evidence to the contrary

Just that it shouldn't happen, and that the assertion that prosecutors can do whatever they want and have immunity for it is false.
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Old 01-01-2017, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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We have a good local one. Turns out we have been getting many to plead guilty to possession of narcotics by a field chem test that is cheap but unreliable. There is a definitive lab test but it takes a laboratory and time. Turns out every one knows the test stinks but they lock someone up and hold them with relatively high bail. The result is the person pleads guilty to get out of jail. The authorities then discard the evidence without ever testing it in the laboratory. In practice something like 8 of 4000 samples were ever properly tested.

And this has been known for a while and still continues. Now a big controversy on how to proceed. Proper thing would be to reverse all and return fines and such and maybe provide some compensation. But that will cost a lot. So it goes on uncorrected.
Somehow I'm not surprised
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Old 01-01-2017, 09:16 PM
 
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I think they were right and he was under the influence of something besides Caffeine. I don't know what kind of body building illegal drugs there are, but there are some. The Caffeine charge is bit weak, but that was all they had. Maybe they were hoping to build a better case or something.

He got reckless driving, but I think the concern was for public safety. It wasn't frivolous.

I don't know, but I assume they knew something was up. Some people are whacked out without drugs, but they suspected a substance was responsible for his behavior.

It isn't even out of the question for someone to have an unusual reaction to any chemical.

They cannot outlaw our Starbucks.
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Old 08-28-2017, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Corona Del Mar, CA
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Default DUI Under the influence of tea

It's a shame it took so long for the prosecutor to dismiss that case. There is a famous case here in California that involved arresting, prosecuting, and then appealing after conviction someone that was driving under the influence of a tea popular in the Pacific islands, Kava Kava.

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The argument, in that case, was made under religious grounds, which ended up being a failure at the appeals court. But the policies of most prosecutors are to try to get a DUI conviction wherever they can, even for tea (or caffeine, in the case involved in this thread).

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