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Most anti hunter types have a very ignorant, emotional basis for their beliefs, beliefs that cannot be rationally defended. The irony lies in the fact that just because they haven't gotten their hands dirty doesn't mean they aren't an accomplice by some degree of separation. The willful killing of animals is part of who we are as a species, and part of almost every ecosystem on Earth, whether it's humans or other predators doing the killing.
There are definitely unethical forms of hunting, but this gets much harder to define because there are emotions involved, laws and regulations, conservation concerns, and personal opinions.
Most anti hunter types have a very ignorant, emotional basis for their beliefs, beliefs that cannot be rationally defended. The irony lies in the fact that just because they haven't gotten their hands dirty doesn't mean they aren't an accomplice by some degree of separation. The willful killing of animals is part of who we are as a species, and part of almost every ecosystem on Earth, whether it's humans or other predators doing the killing.
There are definitely unethical forms of hunting, but this gets much harder to define because there are emotions involved, laws and regulations, conservation concerns, and personal opinions.
Would that include simply that they like animals better than those who kill them for sport? I may not agree 100% but don't find that "ignorant" or overly emotional.
Ok, I appreciate your level of knowledge and contribution to this thread.
Sincerely, thank you.
So for example in Kenya, if they can create economic incentives then that would help combat the poaching, even if it's Elmer Fudd types?
The way it works in South Africa is that instead of poaching animals, or killing them because they are ruining crops, the locals and villagers fully participate in the huge dollars that foreign big game hunters pay to hunt there.
Fully participate means the meat goes to the villages, and villagers are hired to act as trackers, guides and the ones who clean and butcher a downed animal. Would that work in Kenya?
What other economic incentives are there? One could suppose that a tourist tax that is directed towards the villages may be one way, but we all know what happens when a bureaucracy gets involved, right?
Would that include simply that they like animals better than those who kill them for sport? I may not agree 100% but don't find that "ignorant" or overly emotional.
It's pretty much ignorance and overly emotional.
People have been killing animals for sport and pleasure for thousands of years, maybe for hundreds of thousands of years. It's widely practiced in primitive societies as a coming of age rite.
But hardly anyone wastes the carcass. Probably there were trophy hunters back in the 1920s who went to Africa to shoot big game but did not utilize the carcass, just leaving it to the scavengers.
Today trophy hunting is used to raise serious money to maintain the game preserves of Africa, and the carcasses are usually donated to local villagers, who are very grateful for the meat not to mention the revenue that the tourists bring.
Even if you abandon the carcass, it doesn't go to waste. Scavengers will gladly lay claim to it and eat every inch of it including the bones. Lions, hyenas, wild dogs, jackals, leopards, cheetahs, vultures, and insects all will feast on a dead animal.
People who sit around moaning about the unfairness of it really need to get out and see the world. Millions of people are killed in Africa each year just by malaria, and millions more die from hiv, war, murder, and malnutrition. Isn't this vast tragedy infinitely more important than 100 non-endangered animals killed for sport and to maintain the preserves?
The way it works in South Africa is that instead of poaching animals, or killing them because they are ruining crops, the locals and villagers fully participate in the huge dollars that foreign big game hunters pay to hunt there.
Fully participate means the meat goes to the villages, and villagers are hired to act as trackers, guides and the ones who clean and butcher a downed animal. Would that work in Kenya?
What other economic incentives are there? One could suppose that a tourist tax that is directed towards the villages may be one way, but we all know what happens when a bureaucracy gets involved, right?
So, it boils down to corruption.
Makes me worry about the direction of SA politically and it's ramifications on the wildlife there.
Would that include simply that they like animals better than those who kill them for sport? I may not agree 100% but don't find that "ignorant" or overly emotional.
The short answer is yes, on many levels it is ignorant and emotional. You dont have to like hunting or want any part of it, but being categorically against legal, regulated hunting is an emotional position, not a rational one. And if you really want to put your money where your mouth is, stopping eating, wearing, or using anything that is made with or from and animal products.
Also to all you morally upright citizens who are making light of the gruesome death of a father and lawful hunter? Despicable. That would be no different than me celebrating the death of a vegetarian who died of plant poisoning, anaphylaxis, or was killed by a fallen tree. "Serves them right!!!"
Makes me worry about the direction of SA politically and it's ramifications on the wildlife there.
Corruption? How the heck did you get that out of what I said?
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