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Old 04-22-2017, 08:47 AM
 
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Tell the State of Texas that .Their death rows are FULL of mentally ill people. I was born there but thank GAWD I do not live there anymore nor am I a supporter of the death penalty but it is true .
Yeah, BS. Everyone with bad character is "ILL". Total utter BS, and the prisons are filled with people who BELONG IN PRISON for committing crimes.

 
Old 04-22-2017, 08:54 AM
 
Location: UNMC Area
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Perhaps if we had better parents, who stayed home with their kids instead of dumping them in day care, we'd have less incidence of autism, which EVERYBODY has today. Does anyone notice that autism is the stylish and trendy disability that EVERYONE has today, along with ADD/ADHD? And that instead of correct parenting, we substitute psychotropic drugs like Ritalin? Gee, that doesn't seem to be turning out so good.


Perhaps if we had better and more prepared parents, we wouldn't have little criminals being developed that are violent and causing trouble for the good kids.


If a 10 year old is behaving violently and attacking other kids, he or she needs to be taken out of school and institutionalized or home schooled. The majority of good kids who behave well and want to learn should not be victimized by such a child.
Oh boy, you just signed your own death sentence...


#triggered
 
Old 04-22-2017, 08:56 AM
 
Location: UNMC Area
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Yeah, BS. Everyone with bad character is "ILL". Total utter BS, and the prisons are filled with people who BELONG IN PRISON for committing crimes.
I spend a lot of time, and do a lot of work, with recovering addicts. MOST of them hit their nadir while in prison. That was when & where they decided that they needed to turn their lives around.
 
Old 04-22-2017, 08:56 AM
 
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Oh boy, you just signed your own death sentence...


#triggered

Just trying to make my country a "safe space" for the truth.
 
Old 04-22-2017, 09:00 AM
 
Location: UNMC Area
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Just trying to make my country a "safe space" for the truth.
How DARE you use common sense and talk about people being responsible!?!?!?!?!?!?!
 
Old 04-22-2017, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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Perhaps if we had better parents, who stayed home with their kids instead of dumping them in day care, we'd have less incidence of autism, which EVERYBODY has today. Does anyone notice that autism is the stylish and trendy disability that EVERYONE has today, along with ADD/ADHD? And that instead of correct parenting, we substitute psychotropic drugs like Ritalin? Gee, that doesn't seem to be turning out so good.


Perhaps if we had better and more prepared parents, we wouldn't have little criminals being developed that are violent and causing trouble for the good kids.


If a 10 year old is behaving violently and attacking other kids, he or she needs to be taken out of school and institutionalized or home schooled. The majority of good kids who behave well and want to learn should not be victimized by such a child.
Excellent post. Sure there are kids with problems but now every kid who does something wrong gets labeled with some type of abnormality that excuses their behavior. It gets old very fast. You could not pay me enough to be a teacher.
 
Old 04-22-2017, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Concord NC
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Aren't parents of children with "real"- debilitating Autism tired of seeing: fauxtism, under-parented brats and just plain evil kids included on "the spectrum"? What resources there are could go much further for the children and adults with autism and their parents/caretakers who genuinely need it. Some of the worst things to happen to those with Autism are the invention of the ever-expanding "spectrum", the hyper-marketing of the"awareness" business, and the growing acceptance of medicating children with psychoactive and other drugs during brain development, often for the convenience of everyone but the patient.
 
Old 04-22-2017, 09:28 AM
 
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That will teach him a lesson!
No it won't. He'll do it again. He's autistic. They are very prone to outbursts. He needs intervention and careful monitoring.
 
Old 04-22-2017, 09:42 AM
 
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Is autism attributes Involuntary? SUch as they literally have no control over their bodily actions? If so then I can be a bit understanding ...as I have involuntary Ticks so to speak. Never damage..

I will say that there has been a cloak of Coddling when hiding behind an ailment instead of working towards adjustments. Good luck "stepping" back when a person hauls off at you....Unless you are a ninja with quick reflex's your natural "actions" will be to defend your body from harm...Be it to constrain the assailant or obstruct further damage.

I'm tolerant til Pain is cast my way....then its protect, defend and deter. Safety 101.
Autism is a function of a malfunctioning mirror-neuron system and other neurological differences. People with autism can also have tics. When the autistic child's emotions are out of control, their reactions are often involuntary. They tend to have mood and anxiety symptoms, difficulty with sleeping (try being sleep deprived and see if you become aggressive), and difficulty with paying attention. Aggression in children with autism tends to be impulsive. New studies suggest that alleviating problems with sleep, attention or anger rumination (the tendency to dwell on negative, hostile feelings) might be a first step. There is a lot we don't know, but there is a lot that can be done. Schools need to be in the forefront of dealing with this.

For aggressive children, it is certainly possible that they need a special school where the teachers are trained to deal with them. OTOH, if the behavior is precipitated by the aide or teacher behaving badly, then it is the responsibility of the school to change that and to allow the child to get his education in a mainstreamed setting.
 
Old 04-22-2017, 09:58 AM
 
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Back in my day, kids like that were institutionalized. Why is there anything wrong with that? If they can't operate in society without being drugged to the hilt, they need to live in a specialized place. They simply can't function in a normal atmosphere. If parents are going to insist on calling their kids "special", they need to put them in a "special" place where they won't disrupt the normal flow of life.
Have you ever heard of Temple Grandin? She was nonverbal when she was 4 and the doctors did suggest she should be institutionalized. She now has a degree in psychology, a masters in animal science and a doctorate in animal science. In 2009, she was named a fellow of the American Society of Agricultural and Biological Engineers. Thankfully, her mother never considered institutionalizing her.

Temple Grandin - Biologist, Scientist, Writer, Scientist, Educator - Biography.com

Have you ever heard of Donald Triplett? He was autism's first diagnosis back in 1942. He was institutionalized for a short time, but his parents came to take him out and keep him at home. He is 82 now and still living in the home he grew up in. His parents had money which makes all the difference. They were able to give him an independent life.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...-child/308227/

Donald Triplett: Autism's First-Ever Patient, Now 82, 'Has Continued to Grow'

The world is a difficult place for children with autism to navigate because they do not get the social cues that others understand intuitively. They have to be taught to do this. They can be dazzled by sensory overload and thus push and hit because they have someone in front of them. Autistic people are much more likely to be victims of violence than to be offenders.

https://autismandoughtisms.wordpress...justification/

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Violence is an understandable reaction to the frustration, confusion and anger that arises from difficulty in understanding others and making others understand you, as well as been a raw method of communication in itself in the face of a lack of other methods to make feelings and thoughts known. Violence is also a defensive reaction against excessive sensory input, particularly so when the result of the excessive input is akin to pain. Trying to discipline an autistic child to teach the inappropriateness of violence as a response in such situations, is also notoriously difficult, and can end up making things worse if not done well as it can lead to further anxieties and confusion.
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