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Old 07-11-2017, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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I didn't think there would be enough voltage...but guess I was wrong. Poor child. Rest in peace.

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Madison Coe's mother and grandmother tell us she was in the bathtub, and either plugged her phone in or simply grabbed her phone that was already plugged in. It happened at her father's house in Lovington, NM.

Texas teen electrocuted after cell phone incident in bathtub - KCBD NewsChannel 11 Lubbock
^Thinking there might have been an extension cord that was not mentioned also.
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Old 07-11-2017, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Terribly sad. Tragic loss.
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Old 07-11-2017, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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My charger says 4.75v/.55A Not enough at the phone to kill. But if the charger with a 120v extension cord fell in the water, that would kill
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Old 07-11-2017, 08:24 PM
 
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Apparently she couldn't relax in a bathtub with only her thoughts to keep her company. Grab the phone and die. Do young kids not understand about water, electricity and extension cords? What a terrible waste.
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Old 07-11-2017, 08:39 PM
 
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Understandable they should have a phone. This is very sad, but a 14 year old should have been taught about electricity and water. It seems today many parents don't go over the basics, look both ways before you cross the street. I see kids(of course looking down at the phone), just step off the curb or cross the the entrance of a strip mall without looking to see if a car could be coming in or going out.





I see adults doing the same thing. What really irks me are the people who are so engaged in their phones that they aren't paying attention to where they're walking and almost bump into to me. I always give people who do that a mean mug, and if their phone gets knocked out of their hand because they bumped into me I'm definitely not apologizing let alone offering to pay to fix/replace it.

Cellphones have turned people into brain dead zombies.
I saw this again today. Two young women not together but crossing a busy intersection as the light was getting ready to change and cars waiting to turn right on red. Not even looking around, with all the crazy stuff going on with cars being driven into crowds or up on the sidewalk or possibly a drunk or reckless driver, how can you not be aware of your surroundings?

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Apparently she couldn't relax in a bathtub with only her thoughts to keep her company. Grab the phone and die. Do young kids not understand about water, electricity and extension cords? What a terrible waste.
It is a terrible waste. But I do wonder if she was ever taught that? Many kids today don't seem to know to look before crossing, lack basic manners, and seem to raise themselves. So it's possible she was never taught about the dangers of water and electricity.

Very sad and so avoidable. Very sad for the parents.
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Old 07-11-2017, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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I read that the coroner found a burn mark on her hand that was consistent with electrocution. People get electrocuted all the time. Not sure why this one is questioned without reason.
Certainly the bath tub would be grounded, but where would the voltage and current come from to kill someone? I realize that it does not take much to generate a lethal shock. The cell phone charger delivers 5 volts which is not even enough to feel, much less kill, and certainly would not leave burn marks. Good chargers are isolated and the high side of the voltage would not pass through it. A bathroom should have GFI breakers that would prevent current flow anyway. Even dropping an extension cord into the tub would simply trip an ordinary breaker, not kill the bather.
There is some work for the coroner to do here. I suspect some other electrical equipment might be involved.

I'm ready for bed, so I'm not going to delve any deeper into your claim, but as a first pass search, accidental death by electrocution in the home is rare. Most deaths are industrial or contact with distribution lines. looks like 81 industrial deaths in 2015.
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Old 07-11-2017, 09:03 PM
 
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I don't know the ins and outs of cellphone electrocution, but can't people do anything without their darn phone? Back in my day, we read books in the bathtub.
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Old 07-11-2017, 09:22 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Is it bad that I want to see a Youtube video of the actual incident?
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Old 07-11-2017, 09:24 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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This link should explain how and why she died.

https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/tex...s-electricity/

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This problem is especially dangerous if the victim contacts an energized conductor with his or her hands. The forearm muscles responsible for bending fingers tend to be better developed than those muscles responsible for extending fingers, and so if both sets of muscles try to contract because of an electric current conducted through the person’s arm, the “bending” muscles will win, clenching the fingers into a fist. If the conductor delivering current to the victim faces the palm of his or her hand, this clenching action will force the hand to grasp the wire firmly, thus worsening the situation by securing excellent contact with the wire. The victim will be completely unable to let go of the wire
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Old 07-11-2017, 09:30 PM
 
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If the charger was plugged in to 120 VAC, I can think of several ways for unintended current to flow from the outlet through the charger to the phone. My first thought was a miswired outlet. The outlet should have been a GFCI which may have prevented the tragedy.
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