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Old 07-14-2017, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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I'm all for this. A life locked up with hardened criminals has the potential to be much, much worse than early death.
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Old 07-14-2017, 07:57 AM
 
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found them. one ID'd so far

he must have used heavy equipment to bury them that deep.
12 feet is a deep hole. You and I will not be buried that deep.

We've used a back hoe before and the reach was not anywhere close to 12 feet. Good to know there are dogs that can locate remains at such a depth.
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Old 07-14-2017, 07:59 AM
 
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There's also the mental history of the individual, which might have given prosecutors pause about the prospects of gaining convictions in capital charges. They may well have traded away an option they thought they probably would not be able to exercise to fruition.

...The particulars of death row housing of inmates as the appeals process plays out is also higher compared to the annual cost of housing someone serving a sentence such as life.
Had expert opinions found him to be incompetent to stand trial due to the inability to participate in his own defense, resulting in NO conviction...the cost to house him in a state facility along with the atmosphere of no punishment, would make most who are unaware outraged.

A conviction is at least better than that alternative.
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Old 07-14-2017, 09:17 AM
 
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Of course they are going to try to settle this case as quickly as possible. It is a mostly upper middle class area. The DiNardo family farm is probably worth several million dollars. DiNardo and at least one of his victims attended Holy Ghost prep school ($20,000+ annual tuition).

I believe the prosecutors agreed to remove the death penalty because of those factors and DiNardo's documented mental illness (schizophrenia).

Interesting:

"A friend of DiNardo’s told Heavy.com that “six or seven months” before his arrest, though another source said the injury occurred closer to November 2016, DiNardo suffered a head injury following a quad biking accident. The friend said that DiNardo was stranded in the woods alone for around a day and a half with injuries, including broken bones and bleeding on his brain. As a result of the accident DiNardo had frontal lobe damage. The friend said that sometime after the accident, DiNardo began using K2, a synthetic marijuana drug.

Later, the same friend told Heavy.com that DiNardo had an IQ of around 158. The source said, “[DiNardo] is extremely smart and deceptive and knows his way around forensic data.”

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Old 07-14-2017, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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It's a way to guarantee that he won't walk. Get him to confess by promising he won't be executed vs. holding out for a possible execution and risking that the jury won't convict. Or, as others pointed out, that he gets off on an insanity plea and is out in public again after a couple of years of hospitalization.
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Old 07-14-2017, 10:05 AM
 
Location: in my mind
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A lot of these guys end up committing suicide in prison. Sometimes pretty quickly, others after a number of years. So its not a guarantee that he will be in prison for the next 50 years.
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Old 07-14-2017, 10:31 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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A lot of these guys end up committing suicide in prison. Sometimes pretty quickly, others after a number of years. So its not a guarantee that he will be in prison for the next 50 years.
See also: Aaron Hernandez.
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Old 07-14-2017, 10:33 AM
 
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they no doubt received some level of support from the families of the missing men before offering the deal, consideration for them apparently outweighed the need to extract the highest vengeance possible
No they haven't. These families are still in shock, you do realize this happened this month? Not a year ago.

I highly doubt the families have been involved in this. They haven't even held funerals.

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Limited resources.

Trials are expensive. Capital murder trials exponentially so, and they hog human and logistical resources. It's all fine and good to demand that no price is to high in the pursuit of justice, but DAs have to shepherd the limited resources they possess. Blame the politicians who not only refuse to properly fund the criminal justice system but who go as far as cutting its funding so that they can crow 'Re-elect me, 'cause I cut your taxes!'.

As for this case, it is a textbook example of the way capital punishment is used - as one more bargaining chip to be used against a suspect. In other cases, someone might flip against his partners in crime. In this case, the case was wrapped up quickly and the final body was found, in exchange for taking capital punishment off the table.

There's also the mental history of the individual, which might have given prosecutors pause about the prospects of gaining convictions in capital charges. They may well have traded away an option they thought they probably would not be able to exercise to fruition.

PS - Your comment about 'taxpayer dollars' is irrelevant, as capital murder trials and the exhaustive appeals process borne of an aversion to executing innocent people ends up costing more than incarcerating someone for life. The particulars of death row housing of inmates as the appeals process plays out is also higher compared to the annual cost of housing someone serving a sentence such as life.
So is housing a prisoner. He is 20 years old, he could easily live another 50 years or more.

Here in CA we have been housing the Manson family for 47 years. Two of the "girls" got college degrees.

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Old 07-14-2017, 10:34 AM
 
Location: North Oakland
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A lot of these guys end up committing suicide in prison. Sometimes pretty quickly, others after a number of years. So its not a guarantee that he will be in prison for the next 50 years.
It wouldn't bother me if they put a loaded gun in his (single occupant) cell.
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Old 07-14-2017, 10:42 AM
 
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I absolutely do not understand how a guilty confession should spare DiNardo the death penalty. Why would prosecutors spare the death penalty (take it off the table) just because he cooperates with the investigation. FOur men our dead, and in return taxpayer dollars will go to keep DiNardo imprisoned for life? ....
As DiNardo, as I understand it, has previously been in involuntary commitment for mental illness, the state may feel that this would mitigate any chance of getting a death verdict for this crime.
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