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Old 07-21-2017, 08:45 AM
 
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Lock up the wanna be Bruce Willis.

I'm sure though this moron will have his fan base cheering him on for standing up to the corporate AT&T.

Or something.

 
Old 07-21-2017, 09:13 AM
 
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He was charged with multiple counts of assault with a deadly weapon and posted bail. The AT&T guys were a little freaked out by his being released and said they had hoped he would have a mental health evaluation before he was released.
Why was this nutjob released? I hope they at least took all his guns away. He should live out the rest of his life in prison.
 
Old 07-21-2017, 11:00 AM
 
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Why was this nutjob released? I hope they at least took all his guns away. He should live out the rest of his life in prison.
the crime is just for damage to property and threat. he didn't kill somebody.


and if the report is right that they parked in his lawn, then he has all the right to demand that they removed the van. his way to force the workers is just not right
 
Old 07-21-2017, 11:34 AM
 
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the crime is just for damage to property and threat. he didn't kill somebody. and if the report is right that they parked in his lawn, then he has all the right to demand that they removed the van. his way to force the workers is just not right
He has been charged with two counts of aggravated assault with a firearm and two counts of felony vandalism

According to this source AT&T was parked outside his driveway, not on his lawn

Florida man shoots at AT&T trucks parked outside his home* | Daily Mail Online

It seems as though you are trying to defend what this man did, might I ask why?
 
Old 07-21-2017, 11:39 AM
 
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He has been charged with two counts of aggravated assault with a firearm and two counts of felony vandalism

According to this source AT&T was parked outside his driveway, not on his lawn

Florida man shoots at AT&T trucks parked outside his home* | Daily Mail Online

It seems as though you are trying to defend what this man did, might I ask why?
im not defending him. im just trying to point out that you cant lock up a person just because he shot a van aND threatened people. locking up a person is for more serious crimes like murder, kidnapping etc. in this case, his crime is still bailable
 
Old 07-21-2017, 11:46 AM
 
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and if the report is right that they parked in his lawn, then he has all the right to demand that they removed the van. his way to force the workers is just not right
1) If he had that right, it is utterly irrelevant to the fact that he destroyed private property, recklessly discharged a firearm, and pointed said firearm at individuals. That's where the charge assault with a deadly weapon comes in. And in Florida, if you're convicted if discharging a firearm while in the commission of that crime, it's a three-year mandatory minimum prison sentence.

2) The linked article makes clear that AT&T was working on overhead lines, for which AT&T almost certainly had an easement if they had needed it. This means that, no, he does not have a right to demand they leave his property because they have the legal right through the easement to be there. Which is more likely - that AT&T never bothered to gain the necessary easement to service their equipment, or that lunatic and moron homeowner is ignorant of the fact that the purchase agreement that he signed and initialed about a hundred times contained that easement? I know which I'm going with.

3) They weren't even on his property - they were parked in the street in front of his house, as this article and accompanying video make clear.
https://www.local10.com/news/crime/m...s-report-says-

4) And yet...

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He was released straight from jail on bond Thursday without having to go before a judge.
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Hialeah Police could have put an item on Jove's arrest report directing that he have a bond hearing before a judge, but they didn't.

The department's spokesman, Sgt. Carl Zogby, declined to discuss specifics as to why police did not ask that Jove appear before a judge before being released.

"It was a bondable offense. That was our decision, our detectives' decision," Zogby said.

Had Jove appeared in court, a judge could have attached restrictions to his release, including a requirement that he surrender all weapons he might have.
Fla. man goes "bananas," fires up to 18 shots at 2 AT&T trucks in driveway: police - CBS News

Gee, I wonder why Florida has a violent crime rate so much higher than the national average?

On the bright side, the police didn't kill the person who called 911. So there's that.

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im not defending him. im just trying to point out that you cant lock up a person just because he shot a van aND threatened people. locking up a person is for more serious crimes like murder, kidnapping etc. in this case, his crime is still bailable
If you seriously think that a person can't be 'locked up' for waving a gun at people and shooting up property, then you are woefully confused.
 
Old 07-21-2017, 11:49 AM
 
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im not defending him. im just trying to point out that you cant lock up a person just because he shot a van aND threatened people. locking up a person is for more serious crimes like murder, kidnapping etc. in this case, his crime is still bailable
assault with a deadly weapon is a very serious offense and when the weapon is a gun it usually results in a prison sentence.

Florida Penalties for aggravated assault:

In Florida, Aggravated Assault is a third degree felony, with penalties of up to 5 years in prison or 5 years probation, and a $5,000.00 fine. The offense is harshly prosecuted throughout the State, and even first-time offenders will face a realistic possibility of prison.

The range of punishments can increase substantially, to include mandatory prison of up to 20 years, where a firearm is discharged during the course of an incident. Even if a firearm is not discharged, the mere fact that a gun was wielded during the assault will subject the accused to a 3 year minimum mandatory prison sentence.
Aggravated Assault- Florida | Definition, Penalties, Defenses
 
Old 07-21-2017, 12:33 PM
 
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How is shooting out the truck tires supposed to solve his problem of wanting the truck moved?
 
Old 07-21-2017, 12:37 PM
 
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^ That was my thought. Now they REALLY aren't moving, you're going to have even more commotion outside your house in a few minutes, oh, and you're going to jail. Smart.
 
Old 07-21-2017, 12:38 PM
 
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The whole thing is so wrong. Should have been Comcast trucks.
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