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Please tell us what law allows the police to arrest or detain a 15 yo and her mother sitting outside in the car? Even if Mr. Ali got loud, which there is nothing to suggest that happened btw, why does that mean the police get to go outside and "detain" american citizens who just happen to be sitting in a car?
They may have been double parked.
Maybe accessories - the getaway vehicle.
Possibly they were shooting up in the car while waiting.
The kid was illegally selling boy scout popcorn out of the car.
With all the speculation and assumptions going on here, anything is reasonable.
Here is what facts people posting here actually know about this event: "Something happened at a bank in Wichita."
This definitely smacks of racial profiling, but why there was a check involved at all? When we sold a house years ago and made several hundred thousand dollars in profit, the title company wired the proceeds directly to our bank, which also held the original mortgage. About $50k of it went to pay-off the remaining mortgage, and the rest was deposited into an investment account. Having a clear paper trail prevents misunderstandings.
I've worked for a bank in the past. Tellers do not and should not ask where the check came from due to the amount! That's a privacy issue and it's actually none of their business. Had the teller or manager thought it was fake they could have easily had the person wait while they verified the check by calling the issuing bank. Most financial institutions are not going to cash a large check anyway and the check would be deposited for further verification with an extended hold placed on it; therefore, not allowing the account hold to get access to the funds till the check cleared. There was no reason to get the police involved unless the teller or manager did call to verify the check and found it to be fraudulent.
Possibly they were shooting up in the car while waiting.
The kid was illegally selling boy scout popcorn out of the car.
With all the speculation and assumptions going on here, anything is reasonable.
Here is what facts people posting here actually know about this event: "Something happened at a bank in Wichita."
The police were given the opportunity to make a statement in this case, their statement is in the article.
Keep in mind, cops are known for exaggerating and sometimes lying to make themselves look good, in this case, they said only that "they followed procedure".
There's no need to defend the police in this case, and that's what you're doing when you trot out the "benefit of the doubt" argument. If they had a good excuse, probable cause, or even a believable lie, we'd have heard it.
Who called it a minor inconvenience? I certainly didn't so building false points to argue against is weak
You're the one parsing "being detained" vs "being arrested", inferring that somehow being cuffed & held for hours is somehow less stressful if you're not technically "arrested".
Why will a bank racially profile its customers? Wichita KS is a big University town with thousands of International students and immigrants. Foreign students from countries like China, India often bring for their tuition and other expenses Bankers Draft, Check of big amounts from Foreign countries and foreign banks.
International Student Office of Universities often help Foreign students in opening accounts and explaining banking services.
Banks are used to Foreigners as well as them depositing big amount of money.
When international students come, they dont even have any SSN, only passport and visa. Banks take foeign bank drawn check from them.
This student has been living in USA for so many years, he should have all the documentation. Problem seems to be something else- amount or source ?
Even if the check was fake why would they need to arrest his 15yo and his wife who were not even in the bank but sitting in the family car?
Typically, if are in the company of one who is commiting a felony, you are considered an accomplice to the felony. Not saying it is appropriate in this case.
The police were given the opportunity to make a statement in this case, their statement is in the article.
Keep in mind, cops are known for exaggerating and sometimes lying to make themselves look good, in this case, they said only that "they followed procedure".
There's no need to defend the police in this case, and that's what you're doing when you trot out the "benefit of the doubt" argument. If they had a good excuse, probable cause, or even a believable lie, we'd have heard it.
If it quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.
I'm npot saying the police were in the right but the above is wrong, police often decline to try their case in the court of public opinion, preferring to build their case and hand it over to the prosecutor to decide whether to try it in a court or not.
I'm npot saying the police were in the right but the above is wrong, police often decline to try their case in the court of public opinion, preferring to build their case and hand it over to the prosecutor to decide whether to try it in a court or not.
When they look bad, police routinely smear "suspects" to save their own reputation in the public.
Police agencies aren't defenseless little sunflowers & no one needs to defend them with "he mighta's".
For every agency that "declines to try their case in the court of public opinion", there are twenty where they decide to do just that.
In any case, I submit if there was a reasonable defense, you would have heard it, and you didn't.
"We followed procedures" isn't good enough when you "detain" an entire family for hours & drag them to the police station. Absent a damn good excuse, this is a violation of civil rights-
the public is entitled to ask for that reasonable explanation or an investigation by an impartial 3rd party in the absence of that reasonable explanation.
You're the one parsing "being detained" vs "being arrested", inferring that somehow being cuffed & held for hours is somehow less stressful if you're not technically "arrested".
You are the one inferring not I and I in no way made any indication one event was less stressful than another
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