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Old 11-03-2017, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Backwoods of Maine
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Of course, the fact that the Federal Gov't will issue an SSDI check to the parents of autistic children has absolutely zero to do with the fact that so many kids are being diagnosed nowadays. Of course not. I expect a howl of indignation over this.
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Old 11-03-2017, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Seattle Eastside
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Our family has extremely high rates of ADD, ASD, and also most kids test into the gifted or accelerated programs. I think things are going well for us in this age provided we can get the boys through school without drugs (girls seem to be given more leeway because of how they spend their energy). Lots of engineering jobs, lots of maker fairs, lots of opportunities.
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Old 11-03-2017, 01:14 PM
 
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IQ genes are on the X chromosome making mothers most important.
That is more a pseudoscience meme than it is a fact.

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Old 11-03-2017, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Northern panhandle WV
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as to age of mothers, my daughter in law gave birth to my autistic, highly intelligent grandson, who has an photographic memory when she was 20. So many of these theories on why a child has autism are bunk.
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Old 11-03-2017, 05:04 PM
 
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That is more a pseudoscience meme than it is a fact.
You apparently are a science denier and then ironically called science pseudoscience, while posting a link that didn't refute a single thing that I said.

Your link agreed that IQ is in part genetic (just as I said), it just downplayed the genetic component.


What science are you specifically denying?

(1) In adults, IQ is in large part genetic (with other factors playing a role too).

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The heritability of intelligence increases from about 20% in infancy to perhaps 80% in later adulthood.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4270739/

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/...ce-genes-found


(2) Known genes that correlate to IQ are on the X Chromosome --> This also accounts for why males have greater IQ variability and more mental defects.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...016917/?page=1

Children inherit their intelligence from their mother not their father, say scientists | The Independent

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...015834/?page=1


(3) Women with high IQs are less likely to have children.

Women with high IQs less likely to be moms: study - NY Daily News
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Old 11-03-2017, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Independent Republic of Ballard
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We can't assume that autism genes weren't naturally selected - perhaps to accelerate the development of certain mental capacities, but at the cost of correlated incapacities that only show up as such within the social, as opposed to the natural, sphere.

Socialization is a special form of adaption, in that it can preserve mutations that nature would punish, reward mutations that nature might have ignored, and elevate naturally selected mutations to serve new socio-cultural purposes, allowing for an expansion of variations beyond what nature, by itself, would allow.

We also underwent an evolutionary bottleneck, likely due to a natural catastrophe and potential extinction event (the Toba supervolcano?), not that far in the distant past (~75,000 years ago), the echoes of which are likely still reverberating through the human genome.

If change is a constant, we can't assume that only currently useful mutations/variations are worthwhile. Autism might be disabling only in a hyper-social context. Idiot savants, for instance, were likely prized in pre-literate societies.
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Old 11-04-2017, 05:39 AM
 
Location: Minnesota
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I like the saying "once you've met someone with Asperger's /autism you've met one person with autism". Of course meaning every single one is different. The scale on which autism is measured is long and versed.

I think there have always been Aspie's around, we are just better at recognizing them. In many families there is always a odd uncle or aunt who never married and was socially awkward. Or the eccentric uncle who had fantastic collection of of hammers (I have one of those uncles) or marbles or buttons and can and do tell you all about them. Until not to distant past a larger portion of population lived rural life, a quieter existence. Now we are in higher density living and the differences are more apparent.

My son has high functioning autism, used to be called Asperger's. I now recognize it a little in my husband and possibly my grandfather who was very precise in how he spoke and a bit different, but not sure.
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Old 11-06-2017, 02:51 PM
 
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makes sense..
Well, I spose this article, may make older parents who had ultrasounds in utero, feel somewhat better.
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