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Old 11-16-2017, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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I agree the man that took this guys life should have a reduced sentence. Period.
And how would you feel if your daughter was raped by this person, leaving her traumatized to the point where she can not have a relationship with a man years later, and he has only served 1/3 of his sentence? Still feel like he should get out early for committing murder?

That is beyond idiotic.

 
Old 11-16-2017, 06:22 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV.
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And how would you feel if your daughter was raped by this person, leaving her traumatized to the point where she can not have a relationship with a man years later, and he has only served 1/3 of his sentence? Still feel like he should get out early for committing murder?

That is beyond idiotic.
I will admit I didn't think it all the way through and your point is valid. It depends on what he is in there for.

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Old 11-16-2017, 06:28 AM
 
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I will admit I didn't think it all the way through and your point is valid. It depends on what he is in their for.
What he is in there for? He is in there for rape, as far as we know. And now he will be in there for murder too. Because he doesn't get to choose who lives or dies! Why would anyone want to put that decision making ability into the hands of a convicted criminal for his, and his only considerations??

Its just funny (in a sad way)
 
Old 11-16-2017, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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What he is in there for? He is in there for rape, as far as we know. And now he will be in there for murder too. Because he doesn't get to choose who lives or dies! Why would anyone want to put that decision making ability into the hands of a convicted criminal for his, and his only considerations??

Its just funny (in a sad way)
Actually the prison system has it's own hierarchy. Justice is sometimes served whether people agree with it or not. The lowest on the totem pole are child killers and pedophiles. The prison system sometimes serves out their form of justice. Right or wrong that is how it is. I guess I could see someone getting upset over a child killer dying but I would not be included in that group. I don't think this guy deserves a reward or reduced sentence for killing the baby killer, but I shed no tear for the baby killer dying either.
 
Old 11-16-2017, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Wu Dang Mountain
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Regardless of the circumstances and political implications of this form of justice, I applaud it.

There ARE monsters in the world, and there ARE people that have to deal with them. The majority of the population will just tut-tut and light candles.
 
Old 11-16-2017, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV.
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I didn't read that he was in for rape. If he really did do the rape then he should serve his sentence. There is a % in there they did not commit their crimes. But now we know he killed. It is complex.
 
Old 11-16-2017, 07:10 AM
 
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The moral squirming and contorting in an effort to lionize a rapist who killed a murderer is kind of amusing, I have to say.

When a rabid dog kills another rabid dog, do you reward it?

We have a justice system for a reason. It's not perfect, but it's better than they've got in a lot of places. Without it, we would have complete chaos. Instead of rooting for one horrible person killing another horrible person, maybe get involved in advocating for laws that conform with your values or preventing the conditions that contribute to the production of criminals in the first place.

Or just sit there and root for chaos. If that's what blows your skirt up.
 
Old 11-16-2017, 07:11 AM
 
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More of us have a huge Libertarian streak through our bodies and are OK with it.

True, what another poster said (in college he/she worked at a correctional facility) they do have their own code. Not just women and children they defend (this may go w women too) but those disgusting pimps that don't know how to fight a MAN but beat on already traumatized girls I heard get beaten and turned into women in prison - sometimes forced to be the worker for the tough guy.
"Worker"???
You mean owned and used--w/o any choice

Husband watched movie on Netflix I think
The guy playing Jamie on GoT--Nicholas something
Was upwardly mobile yuppie--great life/wife/family
Out to dinner w another couple
He had little too much to drink--and drove home--like many people in US do all the time...not alcoholic but social drinking and used bad judgement
Accident (not really his causitive fault--but reaction time maybe factor)
guy in backseat died as result
Harsh prosecution
His lawyer advised to plead to lesser charge w/incarceration reduced vs risk guilty verdict w/longer penalty
He went to prison and the requirements of surviving in that alien, totally corrupt and brute force environment led to decisions that ultimately destroyed his life...
Interesting movie--very realistic even if a little melodramatic

Sort of like one Tom Selleck did about dirty cops lieing about him in drug case to cover up their mistakes
Selleck's character managed to prove innocence after going to prison but was not unscathed
His ended a lot more positive which was also less realistic probably...

Prisons have little to do with rehabilitation and everything to do w/encapsulating bad aspects of society to protect the "good" people
The fact that white collar criminals still swim very freely in society--stealing money, building products that kill by defective design or wilful disregard for damages just prove how dececgive the system is...
 
Old 11-16-2017, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV.
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The moral squirming and contorting in an effort to lionize a rapist who killed a murderer is kind of amusing, I have to say.

When a rabid dog kills another rabid dog, do you reward it?

We have a justice system for a reason. It's not perfect, but it's better than they've got in a lot of places. Without it, we would have complete chaos. Instead of rooting for one horrible person killing another horrible person, maybe get involved in advocating for laws that conform with your values or preventing the conditions that contribute to the production of criminals in the first place.

Or just sit there and root for chaos. If that's what blows your skirt up.
How about not being so terribly mean to people emotionally responding to something devastating without thinking (admittedly) a lot through. It is a message board, not our thesis.
 
Old 11-16-2017, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV.
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"Worker"???
You mean owned and used--w/o any choice

Husband watched movie on Netflix I think
The guy playing Jamie on GoT--Nicholas something
Was upwardly mobile yuppie--great life/wife/family
Out to dinner w another couple
He had little too much to drink--and drove home--like many people in US do all the time...not alcoholic but social drinking and used bad judgement
Accident (not really his causitive fault--but reaction time maybe factor)
guy in backseat died as result
Harsh prosecution
His lawyer advised to plead to lesser charge w/incarceration reduced vs risk guilty verdict w/longer penalty
He went to prison and the requirements of surviving in that alien, totally corrupt and brute force environment led to decisions that ultimately destroyed his life...
Interesting movie--very realistic even if a little melodramatic

Sort of like one Tom Selleck did about dirty cops lieing about him in drug case to cover up their mistakes
Selleck's character managed to prove innocence after going to prison but was not unscathed
His ended a lot more positive which was also less realistic probably...

Prisons have little to do with rehabilitation and everything to do w/encapsulating bad aspects of society to protect the "good" people
The fact that white collar criminals still swim very freely in society--stealing money, building products that kill by defective design or wilful disregard for damages just prove how dececgive the system is...

I do not watch GOT but would like to watch that Netflix film if you will kindly ask your hubby if he recalls name. Thanks much.
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