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No children were found in the vehicle, three children were on the rocks, the mothers were the only ones in their seatbelts in the car.
I was trying to point out that the kids not wearing seatbelts really didn't say much. Unless their bodies were piled in there. If they were alive and in the car, and seat belts were something they always wore, how would the moms tell them to take them off? When I heard that I assumed the kids were sleeping and their parents would let them take off their belts while sleeping. I wouldn't do that. But I am trying to figure out how the seat belt thing plays into the murder narrative.
It may be a terrible, awful, gut turning story. It might just have been a terrible accident.
Ummmm...and we know they were knocked out and how?
Some kids have MAJOR medical trauma and taking them to the dentist or doctor is years of therapy.
I think it said a lot the parents came over and tried to explain the situation. But I spend a lot of time in facebook groups for parents raising kids from hard places and these stories are so common to me. So is being misunderstood when the outside world thinks something should be easy but in the world of trauma, it is akin to climbing mt everst.
These poor kids went to a hard place alright. 90mph off a cliff then upside down on a rock. These coo coo loo "parents" had been abusing these kids for some time, all the while virtue signaling. Its sick.
I'm confused about the term 'pinned.' Does this mean that when the car was pulled out, the pin on the speedometer was stuck at 90, so they can safely assume the car was travelling at 90 when it went off the cliff? I tried Googling it but didn't really get anywhere.
When the analysis of the wrecked SUV's black box is published, that and more will be clarified.
What’s in the box?
EDRs are already used in 96 percent of new cars “to provide critical crash data that might not otherwise be available,†the NHTSA says. Contrary to what many people think, an EDR doesn’t transmit a constant flow of data from the car. According to the agency, it’s an electronic memory chip that records a continuous loop of information flowing from the car’s sensors and control modules. When a crash occurs, the EDR captures about 5 seconds of data before the event and less than 1 second after it. That includes how fast the car was moving, whether the brakes were applied, the timing of air-bag deployment, and safety-belt use. The data can be accessed only by connecting a special reader to the car.
I'm confused about the term 'pinned.' Does this mean that when the car was pulled out, the pin on the speedometer was stuck at 90, so they can safely assume the car was travelling at 90 when it went off the cliff? I tried Googling it but didn't really get anywhere.
Yes and no. The speedometer was pinned at 90 mph but that doesn't mean the car was traveling at 90 mph when it went over the cliff.
(KPTV) - The speedometer in the car of a Woodland family who died in a crash on the California coastline was “pinned” at 90 mph, indicating to officers the vehicle was running and in motion just prior to hitting the rocks below, according to court documents.
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I've read that the speedometer is tied to the wheels. If someone's foot is on the accelerator pedal when the vehicle becomes airborne there is no more road resistance and the speedometer will register a higher speed accordingly.
I believe if the SUV was traveling 90 mph when it exited the cliff the trajectory would have placed the vehicle further out in the ocean.
Heck, one poster said they weren't Christian without that being written anywhere about the family. Were they alluding to the parents being same-sex? Not sure.
Not what I said. I said that no one would say this happened because the parents were Christian. On the other hand, here are a few random comments from the first few pages of the first thread about the Turpin family:
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I'm going to guess extreme Christian incest cult.
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I know this will upset some people but whenever I hear the words "A good Christian family" I want to scream "run, run away"
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Before I read this, I guessed two things - that they were some brand of religious fanatics, and that they home schooled.
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They're fundie religious wackos. Likely Quiverfull.
When we hear "large family" + "homeschool" + "abuse," that generally triggers loud cries of "AHA! CHRISTIANS!"
But in this case, large family + [possible] abuse + "homeschool" + gay parents + liberal, hasn't provoked a single comment along those lines.
I don't know what faith, if any, the Hart family had. But it's interesting, and in fact quite refreshing, that not one person has said, "They must have been religious!"
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