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Old 04-07-2018, 07:59 PM
 
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Believe me, if Backpage operator indeed was directly involved in pimping and sex trafficking, I want him prosecuted to the fullest extent.. those types are absolute bottom of the barrel scum. However, I don't want to do so while trampling over people's rights and walking back to a time that I know very well...
I guess we'll see. There are 93 indictments against Lacey, and they seem to think there's evidence that he wasn't simply an innocent bystander.
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Old 04-07-2018, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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This isn't about Backstage being some sort of innocent service that was taken advantage of by criminals. It's about Michael Lacey being a willing participant in trafficking.
Then you prosecute the criminal.

We don’t ban all guns because mass shooters and terrorists use them. That would be unfair to law abiding citizens. We don’t ban google because people use the search engine to research how to conduct illegal activity.

Luckily, there are plenty of sites sex workers can use because I surely don’t want to see them in the streets half naked advertising their product, like they did before the internet.
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Old 04-07-2018, 08:05 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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I guess we'll see. There are 93 indictments against Lacey, and they seem to think there's evidence that he wasn't simply an innocent bystander.
Then good.. jail him.

However, again.. my concern is beyond BP. It is far reaching impact, tramples 1st amendment, and doesn't stop trafficking.. not one bit.
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Old 04-07-2018, 08:08 PM
 
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Then you prosecute the criminal.
That's what they're doing. There are 93 indictments against the guy for god knows what; the site was seized as part of the investigation....any business would be seized in the same manner under similar circumstances. I'm not sure why you think Lacey isn't being prosecuted.
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Old 04-07-2018, 08:10 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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That's what they're doing. There are 93 indictments against the guy for god knows what; the site was seized as part of the investigation....any business would be seized in the same manner under similar circumstances. I'm not sure why you think Lacey isn't being prosecuted.
That's not what is being done once FOSTA/SESTA is passed.
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Old 04-07-2018, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Then good.. jail him.

However, again.. my concern is beyond BP. It is far reaching impact, tramples 1st amendment, and doesn't stop trafficking.. not one bit.
I agree. This is a slippery slope when the government also shuts down websites instead of just prosecuting the ownership.

If human trafficking is a big issue in America then legalize prostitution and tax it. Trying to deleted a website here or raid an Asian massage parlor there is like whack-a-mole. Taxpayer dollars are being wasted

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That's what they're doing. There are 93 indictments against the guy for god knows what; the site was seized as part of the investigation....any business would be seized in the same manner under similar circumstances. I'm not sure why you think Lacey isn't being prosecuted.
Surely you can see that in general, taxpayer money is being wasted on this endless whack-a-mole game by law enforcement and prostitution.
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Old 04-07-2018, 08:11 PM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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You are right. Pimping isn't protected by the first amendment. However, ad services aren't actually pimping... no more than a gun dealer is committing a murder.
You're comparing gun dealing/ownership to pimping children? Great analogy.
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Old 04-07-2018, 08:15 PM
 
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That's not what is being done once FOSTA/SESTA is passed.
Are you saying that Michael Lacey isn't being prosecuted? What about the 93 sealed indictments they issued yesterday?
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Old 04-07-2018, 08:21 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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Are you saying that Michael Lacey isn't being prosecuted? What about the 93 sealed indictments they issued yesterday?
No

That's not what I am saying.. read again.
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Old 04-07-2018, 08:24 PM
 
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Surely you can see that in general, taxpayer money is being wasted on this endless whack-a-mole game by law enforcement and prostitution.
That wasn't my point. My point was that the guy is being prosecuted. Whether prosecution is a waste of taxpayer money is another conversation. And no, when child sex trafficking is involved, I don't consider it a waste.
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