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Old 04-08-2018, 08:45 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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There are plenty of other sites to get down with the get down... avoiding LEOs isnít difficult.
Ramifications is much further reaching than just a few sex for play sites.
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Old 04-08-2018, 08:48 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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Prostitution is illegal however in most states. Personals is one thing, Sex for money is another.
I think the point is that Personals just like any service including ads, forums, social media, dating websites etc can be taken advantage of to illicit illegal activities by the end users. Should legitimate services beheld liable for their criminal actions?
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Old 04-09-2018, 06:23 AM
 
Location: Dayton, OH
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Interesting, the U.S. government seems to really hate such a generally victimless crime.
Check out the Netflix documentary "I Am Jane Doe." That might change your mind.
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Old 04-09-2018, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Golden, CO
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I think the point is that Personals just like any service including ads, forums, social media, dating websites etc can be taken advantage of to illicit illegal activities by the end users. Should legitimate services beheld liable for their criminal actions?
EXACTLY! While Iím concerned about sex trafficking and generally support efforts to end/reduce it, Iím curious to know if this will turn out to be a slippery slope type of issue. I know people who have met their spouses on websites like match.com. Would match.com be forced to shut down if a very small percentage of users are using the site for an unintended purpose?
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Old 04-09-2018, 09:55 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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Check out the Netflix documentary "I Am Jane Doe." That might change your mind.
I have. I have been involved decades and it doesn't impress me. It misses the main message that there should be a distinct line drawn between prostitution and sex trafficking. It focuses on the sex rather tha n the force and coercion that these poor souls undergo. It also fails to address the issue that human trafficking isn't just about selling sex... It occurs in other labor types as well. Including nanny, restaurants, hospitalitu services, agriculture, nail salons, etc,

It is typical that it cherry picks views for the dramatic and viewership rather than telling the whole story.

Prostitution is when two consenting adults are involved. What happens behind private quarters isn't anyone else's business, especially government.

Sex slavery, pimping, and sex trafficking are different in that the sex worker is not giving consent and is either coerced or forced. That is the core defining issue... Not the selling of sex. Forced labor of any type is offensive.

This is the main problem I have with the overall ignorance of the general public and those that make a showing like they give a damn.
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Old 04-09-2018, 10:00 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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EXACTLY! While Iím concerned about sex trafficking and generally support efforts to end/reduce it, Iím curious to know if this will turn out to be a slippery slope type of issue. I know people who have met their spouses on websites like match.com. Would match.com be forced to shut down if a very small percentage of users are using the site for an unintended purpose?
Absolutely. Someone gets it. The people pushing FOSTA and SESTA sell the legislation as a feel good measure that even their own DOJ is against.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...stop-fosta-now
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Old 04-09-2018, 10:45 AM
 
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The IRS hates anything it cant tax
it doesn't give 2 poops about victims or sex traficcing
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Old 04-09-2018, 10:51 AM
 
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This isn't about Backstage being some sort of innocent service that was taken advantage of by criminals. It's about Michael Lacey being a willing participant in trafficking.
how was he willing?
Did the ads SAY that they were trafficking
was he supposed to investigate every add?
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Old 04-09-2018, 11:07 AM
 
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how was he willing?
Did the ads SAY that they were trafficking
was he supposed to investigate every add?
His complicity is for the those conducting the criminal investigation to decide. 93 indictments is a lot of smoke.
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Old 04-09-2018, 01:10 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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how was he willing?
Did the ads SAY that they were trafficking
was he supposed to investigate every add?
From the context of ads.. I agree. The ads don't specifically mention illegal activity. They get flagged by other users and removed. Regardless the service shouldn't be considered complicit in end users actions.

However, there is some talk that Lacey was directly involved in other criminal activity beyond just running BP. If so, I think he should be prosecuted for his actions but not for simply running BP.
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