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Old 04-09-2018, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Spain
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About damn time. They have been making a business out of trafficking children for sexual exploitation for decades. Good riddance.
Have they even been around for decades?
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Old 04-09-2018, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Its relatively easy to remove subsections in a website like in ads and forums or discussion like reddit. It's also easy to block regions like TER.

As for messenging where the sheer volume makes it impractical, I have no idea what they are going to do. Unlike some websites that stopped Pms that is core to Twitter.... Messenging. It's either risk it or go off line. I surmise they are hoping for a pocket veto.

Twitter, if you recall is one of Trumps babies.... So i would surmise they feel will get special treatment.

People so focused on CL and BP but they missed the fact that it impacts practically any website that depends on user created content.
True. Where else is he going to put out his insane Tweets, if he shuts Twitter down.
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Old 04-09-2018, 11:25 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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Curious...was this the free newspaper in Chicago that used to have all the upcoming local concerts?...and an apparently sketch escort section. Because the paper itself wasn't bad.
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Old 04-09-2018, 11:37 PM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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Curious...was this the free newspaper in Chicago that used to have all the upcoming local concerts?...and an apparently sketch escort section. Because the paper itself wasn't bad.
If you are talking about Village Voice, which has been around since the 1970s, then yes. Some people seem to believe history begins from the time the internet entered our homes. The back page (where all the seedy ads would appear) of that rag moved to the internet after ad sales took a nosedive with the advent of Craigslist. Good call, artillery77.
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Old 04-09-2018, 11:46 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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If you are talking about Village Voice, which has been around since the 1970s, then yes. Some people seem to believe history begins from the time the internet entered our homes. The back page (where all the seedy ads would appear) of that rag moved to the internet after ad sales took a nosedive with the advent of Craigslist. Good call, artillery77.
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Old 04-10-2018, 12:13 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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If you are talking about Village Voice, which has been around since the 1970s, then yes. Some people seem to believe history begins from the time the internet entered our homes. The back page (where all the seedy ads would appear) of that rag moved to the internet after ad sales took a nosedive with the advent of Craigslist. Good call, artillery77.
Nice...thanks! Miss the Chicago music scene. $5 DSO shows at Martyrs? Umphrey's McGee? Wilco at the Vic? <sigh...fun times>

Anyway...sorry VV...everyone knows the jailbait is bad news. Not cool.
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Old 04-10-2018, 10:49 AM
 
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Good riddance. This website was allowing people to sell children for sex and the federal courts claimed their hands were tied due to a federal statute (that Congress refused to even attempt to amend and preferred to hold hearings to investigate the issue; there was controversy when the Backpage CEO refused to show up to give his testimony), even though what the sellers were doing and what Backpage was allowing was serious criminal activity. Prostitution and definitely trafficking is generally illegal, yes, but at least oftentimes, adults may consent to the activity. Children legally never can and often had been coerced in the first place. I think Congress finally proposed a solution last summer, when a lot of the litigation and controversy was happening around 2011 and I think earlier.
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Old 04-10-2018, 11:15 AM
 
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The religious right hides behind sex trafficking to go after what they consider perversion (we won't get into their private perversions behind the scenes here) and the powers that be help them because they can't tax it. They also get help from feminists who like to speak for sex workers without actually listening to them. They want jobs. In the absence of said jobs, they would like their source of income to be left alone. The only thing this action will do is force sex traffickers further underground and harder to catch. Backpage was a central place where you can track everybody. Non-trafficked sex workers, of whom there are several despite what some would have you believe, will need to take more dangerous measures in order to get paid. Hypocrisy all around and this law will have far reaching effects beyond Backpage as some of you have rightly stated.
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Old 04-10-2018, 01:17 PM
 
Location: colorado springs, CO
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Legit strippers are merely entertainers, not "sex workers".
Heh; one of the oldest lines in the book:

"Oh; I dance ... Not at a club or anything ... You know; like private appointments, umm ... bachelor parties ... "
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Backpage was a cesspool of hoes and child sex trafficking. Legal businesses can advertise anywhere why they have to use a kiddie pimp site.
Hoes should never be thrown into the same cesspool as "child sex trafficking/kiddie pimp sites". It muddles everything up; as is clearly evident on this thread. I vote to Save the Hoes.
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I would argue that the majority of people being advertised for sex on those sites were vulnerable, if not out right enslaved and/or trafficked.
Many advertise themselves. And the ones counted as "enslaved" or "trafficked" are experiencing something a lot closer to Domestic Violence, than anything else.
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Interesting how many people are "experts" on sex trafficking. Unless you're an investigative reporter, involved in law enforcement, a victim, or a client ...
A Ho would know. Why didn't you include a Ho? Geez; first they are thrown into a cesspool & now they are left out of the discussion?
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Knowledgeable people know that prostitution itself assuming consenting adults are not victims.

Its trafficking that is the problem. The issue here is that they are treating the issue as a sex issue rather than a labor issue... Less knowledgeable people act according to emotion. How about those trafficked in nanny, restaurants, agriculture, hospitality services etc..? We ignore those victims... And trample over others
Maybe because people don't really care about who is scrubbing the hotel toilets or harvesting crops? If you're going to gain the support of the rabble with their pitchforks; Righteous Indignation is a good way to do it.

Especially during those election years when the judges, sheriffs & Attorney Generals are running ...
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I'm really interested in how many people seem to have a personal interest in these prostitution/child abuse/sex trafficking websites.
Well I guess there is clearly a market for it.
Which one? An interest & market for prostitution?

Or that "child abuse/trafficking" issue?
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Then the government isn’t good as that their jobs of stopping it.

There are still thousands of escort sites up and running...
It has impacted the online access quite a bit already; CL has pulled all of its Personal Ads, a number of Sub-reds are closed & CV is dark. TER is only accessible from outside the US.

There are two that have always weathered every storm & they seem to be just fine; so far.
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Hard to consider this a “win” then Johns can now go to a different site or the Asian massage parlor down the street.
These businesses thrived back in the days of a landline & a few lines in the Yellow Pages ...
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Old 04-10-2018, 01:23 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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There are two that have always weathered every storm & they seem to be just fine; so far.
The two I think you are referring to are hosted outside of the US. I just did a WHOIS search on their domains.

Situations like TER can be circumvented.

A group has also just launched their version of twitter like social media that is friendly to sexworkers... lol

btw... I agree with yah on the Righteous Indignation.. sadly it is true that other trafficked victims are often ignored.... operating right underneath people's noses as they go about their daily routine.

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