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Old 04-11-2018, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Lakeside
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Originally Posted by ClaraC View Post
This is very complicated.

The male "bulge" or male nipples aren't causing girls in class to lose their concentration. Obviously, I'm NOT blaming the girls for this, but that's just the way it is. Scantily clad girls make it hard for the boys to concentrate based on brain chemistry reality.

Not so much for girls. Because girls aren't as visual (hence, no porno mags directed toward the female market).

I know girls enjoy the pleasure of male attention when they dress scantily (I know, I was one) but we still have to think about classroom distractions.

You can't imagine a kid bringing a yoyo to class and insisting on playing with it during the lesson, this is kind of the same thing, IMHO.
Females should not be held responsible for males inability to rise above distraction. (No pun intended).

Maybe like carriage horses, boys should wear blinkers?

And no...playing with a toy in class is in no way a parallel for girls being forced to wear a particular piece of clothing to provide additional over for part of their anatomy because boys find it appealing.

Yo-yos are almost always banned from classrooms. Are you suggesting that breasts should be too?

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Old 04-11-2018, 11:17 AM
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Females should not be held responsible for males inability to rise above distraction. (No pun intended).

Maybe like carriage horses, boys should wear blinkers?
I disagree, but appreciate you humor. ;D

We're all in this together. And school administrators have to deal with half the population (roughly) in the school that becomes distracted with scantily clad women.

Males clearly have to be mature enough to not act on their desires, that's for sure.

But a beautiful girl with tight or revealing clothing is still a distraction even if the boy is trained not to communicate that in any way except involuntarily. And wearing modest clothing doesn't detract - at all - from her rights. It's not like the rule is the girls have to sit in the back of the class and not speak, or the girls aren't allowed.

The girls are allowed, and welcomed, as they obviously should be, and have every right to be, but please don't purposely dress in a way that you know will provoke extra desire in about half the students.

That seems simple enough. And encouraging girls to enjoy the attention from being the fastest girl in track, or the best clarinet player or the best GPA is a great thing. And not because the guy behind her is breathing hard.
 
Old 04-11-2018, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Lakeside
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Originally Posted by ClaraC View Post
I disagree.

We're all in this together. And school administrators have to deal with half the population (roughly) in the school that becomes distracted with scantily clad women.

Males clearly have to be mature enough to act on their desires, that's for sure.

But a beautiful girl with tight or revealing clothing is a distraction. And wearing modest clothing doesn't detract - at all - from her rights. It's not like the rule is the girls have to sit in the back of the class and not speak, or the girls aren't allowed.

The girls are allowed, and welcomed, as they obviously should be, and have every right to be, but please don't purposely dress in a way that you know will provoke extra desire in about half the students.

That seems simple enough. And encouraging girls to enjoy the attention from being the fastest girl in track, or the best clarinet player or the best GPA is a great thing. And not because the guy behind her is breathing hard.
Boys are distracted by legs, ankles, breasts IN a bra, hair, eyes, backside, etc.

Shall we require girls to envelope themselves in a burqua to help the poor, weak boys from being distracted?

What about girls with large breasts? Maybe make them go to a different school?
 
Old 04-11-2018, 11:22 AM
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Boys are distracted by legs, ankles, breasts IN a bra, hair, eyes, backside, etc.

Shall we require girls to envelope themselves in a burqua to help the poor, weak boys from being distracted?

What about girls with large breasts? Maybe make them go to a different school?
No. Current dress codes are fine.

We're all in this together.

And by the way, the boys aren't weak. They're strong, and strongly responding to nature's call when they become very distracted by beautiful girls.

That's a healthy reaction, and an expected one, and a positive one. Now, can you please cover up your butt cheeks, sweetie? Thanks. ;D
 
Old 04-11-2018, 11:27 AM
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Boys are distracted by legs, ankles, breasts IN a bra, hair, eyes, backside, etc.

Shall we require girls to envelope themselves in a burqua to help the poor, weak boys from being distracted?

What about girls with large breasts? Maybe make them go to a different school?
So let me take this a step further, about "poor weak boys". I would be gravely concerned for our society if the majority of boys weren't weak kneed around scantily clad girls.

I think we have about 10% gay rate, and they respond strongly to other males, so they wouldn't be as distracted by girl's bodies.

But I hope and pray we don't beat the sexuality out of our young men and tell them that the natural state of arousal makes them "poor and weak".

Did you really mean to say that, in retrospect?
 
Old 04-11-2018, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Lakeside
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No. Current dress codes are fine.

We're all in this together.

And by the way, the boys aren't weak. They're strong, and strongly responding to nature's call when they become very distracted by beautiful girls.

That's a healthy reaction, and an expected one, and a positive one. Now, can you please cover up your butt cheeks, sweetie? Thanks. ;D
Then they should be well able to quash their body’s and brain’s reaction to whatever visual goodies they see.

Your attitude and “reasoning” are exactly what men have used for centuries and beyond to excuse rape.
 
Old 04-11-2018, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Lakeside
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So let me take this a step further, about "poor weak boys". I would be gravely concerned for our society if the majority of boys weren't weak kneed around scantily clad girls.

I think we have about 10% gay rate, and they respond strongly to other males, so they wouldn't be as distracted by girl's bodies.

But I hope and pray we don't beat the sexuality out of our young men and tell them that the natural state of arousal makes them "poor and weak".

Did you really mean to say that, in retrospect?
I don’t think men and boys are weak at all. You are the one who is implying that they are and that they must be protected by requiring girls to wear bras.
 
Old 04-11-2018, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Flawduh
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Well, as with everything, it all depends on the individual case at hand.
A few things I'd like to point out first: just about every guy I know wears an undershirt of some type, be it a tank top or just a plain, tight(er) t shirt underneath their polo, button-up, etc. It's more comfortable, and lots of shirts are thin. No one wants to have men walking around the office or school in a semi-see-thru shirt.

Second, the picture of the girl in that link is a bit questionable. Kids are allowed to wear that to school? When I was in school, not too long ago, guys couldn't walk around in just bare tank tops unless there was some type of sport event or something. We sure couldn't go to class in a tank-top. I don't particularly see anything wrong with the girl's top per say, but the whole argument about "if guys don't need to wear bras, why should girls" can also be reversed in this tank top scenario.

Another point, I GUARANTEE you if a guy showed up at school in leggings, he'd be sent home in a heartbeat. Girls can wear leggings and form-fitting pants. Guys can't. It's not appropriate.

Guys and girls have different body shapes. Guys and girls wear different things. If a girl has large breasts, for the sake of modesty, I'd hope she wear a bra when out in certain areas, school being one. At the very least, wear something tight enough that they're not swinging like pendulums when walking. A tank top under a shirt (like guys do) would work just fine.

If a guy is well-endowed, I'd hope he has the decency to not just stroll around in loose basketball shorts and no underwear. Mind you, if a guy did this and suddenly became erect, and walked through school hallways or the cafeteria, there would be grounds for disciplinary action, I can assure you.

It's not so much about bra vs no bra. I know some people who go about life with no underpants. As long as it's not noticeable, no one is going to care.
 
Old 04-11-2018, 11:46 AM
 
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The right undergarments make or break an outfit. Bras also serve the purpose of keeping things in place. I don't recommend jogging without one. Guys used to be expected to wear a t-shirt or undershirt under their more formal shirts or even polos. My son has an extracurricular school uniform that requires one. School is the place to be properly dressed without distraction. Shorts showing bottom biscuits or allowing a look at the goodies aren't proper for school. The guys aren't wearing those either.
 
Old 04-11-2018, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Lakeside
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Well, as with everything, it all depends on the individual case at hand.
A few things I'd like to point out first: just about every guy I know wears an undershirt of some type, be it a tank top or just a plain, tight(er) t shirt underneath their polo, button-up, etc. It's more comfortable, and lots of shirts are thin. No one wants to have men walking around the office or school in a semi-see-thru shirt.

Second, the picture of the girl in that link is a bit questionable. Kids are allowed to wear that to school? When I was in school, not too long ago, guys couldn't walk around in just bare tank tops unless there was some type of sport event or something. We sure couldn't go to class in a tank-top. I don't particularly see anything wrong with the girl's top per say, but the whole argument about "if guys don't need to wear bras, why should girls" can also be reversed in this tank top scenario.

Another point, I GUARANTEE you if a guy showed up at school in leggings, he'd be sent home in a heartbeat. Girls can wear leggings and form-fitting pants. Guys can't. It's not appropriate.

Guys and girls have different body shapes. Guys and girls wear different things. If a girl has large breasts, for the sake of modesty, I'd hope she wear a bra when out in certain areas, school being one. At the very least, wear something tight enough that they're not swinging like pendulums when walking. A tank top under a shirt (like guys do) would work just fine.

If a guy is well-endowed, I'd hope he has the decency to not just stroll around in loose basketball shorts and no underwear. Mind you, if a guy did this and suddenly became erect, and walked through school hallways or the cafeteria, there would be grounds for disciplinary action, I can assure you.

It's not so much about bra vs no bra. I know some people who go about life with no underpants. As long as it's not noticeable, no one is going to care.
Beyond the fact that yoga pants and leggings and too short skirts have already been banned in many schools, please show me one incident where a boy has been disciplined by a school for having an erection that was visible through his clothing
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