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Old 04-13-2018, 08:43 AM
 
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https://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...eat/510292002/

That's dangerous that the seats can just flip like that. Were they not locked into place properly, or is that just how the van was designed?
The article states a later model of that van was recalled because the seats accidentally fall forward. I wonder if that older van also had that problem.

It seems likely someone was parked behind him, so he couldn't easily access the back hatch to retrieve his tennis equipment. And that he just put his weight on the front part of the back seat to reach back into the cargo area and the seat flipped.

So sad. I wonder what info the second dispatcher withheld that led to her being suspended from her job.
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Old 04-13-2018, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I don't even understand how this could happen. I'm guessing he was somehow pinned between the floor and the bottom of the seat, compressing his chest? I'm fairly muscular and it is hard to even fit my arm under the seat to get something out.
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Old 04-13-2018, 08:50 AM
 
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His obituary:

https://obittree.com/obituary/us/ohi...plush/3482676/
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Old 04-13-2018, 09:01 AM
 
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I don't even understand how this could happen. I'm guessing he was somehow pinned between the floor and the bottom of the seat, compressing his chest? I'm fairly muscular and it is hard to even fit my arm under the seat to get something out.
I didn't notice it at first, but at the very top of the link in the first post has a video that illustrates how it apparently happened.
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Old 04-13-2018, 09:15 AM
 
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This breaks my heart. I have a 15 year old son and I can't even imagine...

An article in The Daily Mail stated that over 700,000 vans had been recalled because of the seat issue.

That poor family. So sorry for their loss.
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Old 04-13-2018, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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Absolutely horrible. I can't even imagine.

I'm not going to fault a teenager who is being asphyxiated for not thinking with a completely clear mind, but it's such an incredible shame that he wasn't able to be more specific in his first call. "I'm in a gold Honda Odyssey minivan, license plate XYZ-123, at Seven Hills School, in the west parking lot, near the driveway." Maybe, if he had been able to do this, maybe he could have been found and saved.

But like I said, I am NOT casting blame on him. Few people would have been able to be so self-composed in such a dire situation.
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Old 04-13-2018, 09:21 AM
 
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Absolutely horrible. I can't even imagine.

I'm not going to fault a teenager who is being asphyxiated for not thinking with a completely clear mind, but it's such an incredible shame that he wasn't able to be more specific in his first call. "I'm in a gold Honda Odyssey minivan, license plate XYZ-123, at Seven Hills School, in the west parking lot, near the driveway." Maybe, if he had been able to do this, maybe he could have been found and saved.

But like I said, I am NOT casting blame on him. Few people would have been able to be so self-composed in such a dire situation.
He did say what parking lot, and apparently they couldn't understand him, presumedly because he couldn't breathe and he was shouting from the back of the van.

The officer did locate the van, also. Sad that the officer didn't see him in there, likely because the windows are tinted and he wasn't expecting him to be in the back.
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Old 04-13-2018, 09:22 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, Tx
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https://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...eat/510292002/

That's dangerous that the seats can just flip like that. Were they not locked into place properly, or is that just how the van was designed?
IMO you're asking a lot of a 14yr old car. I dont expect a random 16yr old to understand that he was leaning on 14yr old mechanisms but I dont agree with anyone blaming Honda over this. The fact remains, this kid was leaning on the seat in a way not conducive to the design. It's horrible that he died but this accident happened as a result of his own carelessness. The fact that he died because of the accident is on the 911 operators to answer to.
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Old 04-13-2018, 09:23 AM
 
Location: East Cobb, GA
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As a mother, this absolutely breaks my heart!

You tell your children to not go anywhere with strangers, look both ways berfore you cross the street etc. Nothing prepares you for this. I saw the illustration and I thought how often has someone done that and nothing bad happened? How often have my kids done his? Sometimes the most innocent things you do can turn deadly.
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Old 04-13-2018, 09:59 AM
 
Location: OHIO
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Wow, that's truly horrific. I know I have done that exact same thing, you don't think of this happening.
I'm impressed he was able to make a call using siri even though he wasn't able to get to his phone. I can't say I would think to do that in his situation. I don't think I even have my Siri activated to respond to my voice.


He did the best he could to get help. Heartbreaking.
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