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Old 05-17-2018, 09:37 PM
 
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Agreed. And meanwhile, what does any of this have to do with the bus driver? This line of convo was based on blaming the aide too, and/or insinuating that the driver's peers and superiors must have given her the idea it was okay to do this.

First of all, we have no idea this is the case (and the driver closing the door so nobody else could get on the bus to see/hear what she was doing would seem to say the opposite). Second of all, if a non-abuser is not outright told not to abuse, would such a person even think to abuse at all? No. You don't turn a healthy person into an abuser simply by not outright mentioning "so anyway, don't choke kids with their own jackets and jeer at them." This driver was abusive to a child, and that is on her.
Agree completely.
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Old 05-17-2018, 09:39 PM
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That was pretty awful. The bus driver borders on sicko.
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Old 05-17-2018, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Texas
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What does salary have to do with it?
Would you like being given the most difficult and challenging tasks when you were earning far less than everyone else? Aides aren't paid enough to take the kinds of risks they are asked to. My opinion won't change.
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Old 05-17-2018, 10:00 PM
 
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If a bus driver can't get her off, then an aide can't. Aides get paid very little and always get the hard jobs pushed off on them. The things that nobody else wants to do or deal with.
The bus driver didn't appear to be trying to get the child off the bus. It looked to me like she was refusing to let the girl leave the bus.
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Old 05-18-2018, 06:17 AM
 
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The bus driver didn't appear to be trying to get the child off the bus. It looked to me like she was refusing to let the girl leave the bus.
You're right, she wasn't trying to get the child off the bus, until, well, she was trying to get the child off the bus.

For the busdriver, getting her off the bus wasn't priority #1. Priority #1 was trying to lay down the law and let this child know who's boss, and that whatever the continuing behaviors were that were objectionable to the bus driver, those wouldn't be happening anymore on her bus. Whatever those were. And however controversial that is. That was the perspective of the bus driver at the time.

I completely agree with you - I think most of us could have made fairly quick work of getting that child compliant and willing to get off the bus. "I know you're really upset, and I'm going to stand here and walk with you so we can get into the building and talk about this. I have your backpack, I'll carry it. Oh - would you like to carry it? Come on, 'cmon, 'cmon, now hop up let's go on inside now. When you're ready to walk off the bus, I'll go with you."

The thing is, the child wanted to get off the bus to begin with, and was standing to leave when she pushed her back into the seat for the power play - presumedly to establish authority.

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Old 05-18-2018, 05:49 PM
 
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Would you like being given the most difficult and challenging tasks when you were earning far less than everyone else? Aides aren't paid enough to take the kinds of risks they are asked to. My opinion won't change.

Most people who are working in special ed aren't doing it for the money...
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Old 05-18-2018, 09:00 PM
 
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That video made me physically ill. That bus driver is a sadistic psycho. OMG that was terrible. wow...

I'm afraid to read the comments in this post.
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Old 05-18-2018, 09:17 PM
 
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Would you like being given the most difficult and challenging tasks when you were earning far less than everyone else? Aides aren't paid enough to take the kinds of risks they are asked to. My opinion won't change.
Sure they should be paid more...but if they aren't going to do their jobs because they aren't paid enough to take the risks the job entails, then they should move on down and apply at McDonalds. Its the job. Do it for what you are paid, or if you cant be bothered, get another low paying job that you can agree to preform fully for the money you are offered.
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Old 05-19-2018, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Seminole County, FL
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That video made me physically ill. That bus driver is a sadistic psycho. OMG that was terrible. wow...

I'm afraid to read the comments in this post.
The comments seem to agree with you.
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Old 05-19-2018, 05:24 PM
 
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The comments seem to agree with you.
Mostly...and I am glad. That woman is a psycho. Part of me understands she is hurting so she is hurting others. But that child did not deserve that. It isn't ok to be an adult and then spew your own hurt on a tiny child. And add that she is a special needs kid.

I just don't understand how people let it happen. It scares me as a mom of special needs kids. Terrifies me, actually.

I also feel a lot of empathy for the parents of this child. I really do hope they hold the school 100% accountable for this and force them to make changes. If it was me...I would likely grab my kid and run.
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