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Originally Posted by beachmouse
Only if you're coming from a viewpoint that says only women can be the victims of sexual assault, which is very flawed. Men can be raped too, and a man sexually assaulted by a woman will often involve him being drunk or drugged and in a position where he can't give informed consent to her actions.
I'm interested. I volunteered in a rape crisis center, back in the day, and your scenario seems incredibly rare.
Men who were victims of rape were typically raped by other men, and it wasn't a case of the guy getting so drunk he consented but passed out during the encounter. It was an all-out violent physical assault.
Cases where women take sexual advantage of men by getting them drunk or drugged are not typical. Also, not probably all that successful. :-/
States where judges are elected have lower crime rates than states where judges are appointed by the good old boy network. This is because the public wants criminals behind bars. They want law and order judges. Sometimes the public makes a mistake and elects an incompetent judge. The public can remove that judge at the next election.
I'm interested. I volunteered in a rape crisis center, back in the day, and your scenario seems incredibly rare./
Given your understanding of the crime of rape and how you seem to believe victims play a role in it, this is really not the type of volunteer work you should be doing. Victims of crime don't need to hear blame. It's not going to help them.
Given your understanding of the crime of rape and how you seem to believe victims play a role in it, this is really not the type of volunteer work you should be doing. Victims of crime don't need to hear blame. It's not going to help them.
Just my opinion.
Unfortunately I can't rep you again. Reminds me of the other poster claiming to be a victim's advocate, then blaming the victim for being assaulted.
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It would be interesting to know the real numbers since I suspect it's even more underreported than men assaulting women.
Male rape is certainly very under reported, although by it's nature of being under reported it's impossible to grasp the statistics. So hard to know.
Male on male rape is devastating in two ways: the initial humiliating and violent assault, and then the aftermath of suffering in silence. Men don't typically avail themselves of the resources available to female rape victims; and those resources aren't really geared toward serving male victims.
The scenario of a woman getting a man drunk so she can pleasure herself with his body is not typical.
Statutory rape of young men by older women, notably teachers, is a concern though.
And the analogy doesn't really work here, as the victim was not in Brock's home and not even on a date with him.
We don't know that he stole from me. The analogy isn't perfect, but it does work, because here we also have only two people who know what really took place. One says there was agreement, the other says "I don't remember anything".
Of course it would be a male who disagrees with the removal of the judge from office... He could have gone with what's right over what's recommended...
But SOME women across America are grateful to the citizens of California...
A better analogy might be -- you "get yourself drunk" and pass out somewhere outdoors, and when you come to, your wallet is missing.
But that doesn't work either. If Brock had been charged with taking "Emily's" purse, or an engagement ring for instance, I could agree with you. Like a wallet, that is something no reasonable person could expect as a gift. Unfortunately in today's society, a young woman giving herself to a virtual stranger at a frat party is not uncommon nor unexpected.
We don't know that he stole from me. The analogy isn't perfect, but it does work, because here we also have only two people who know what really took place. One says there was agreement, the other says "I don't remember anything".
And the one who doesn't remember anything was UNCONSCIOUS! So this is a MORAL issue of what kind of dick-bag has sex with an unconscious person? If that isn't RAPE, I don't know what is! For heaven's sake, really? The point where a human being becomes an animal confined to only his need to get his rocks off is, in my opinion, the point where basic human dignity has been cast aside. For Turner to even say he had "permission" is ludicrous - and Judge Persky got what he deserved for siding with a rapist creep.
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He could have gone with what's right over what's recommended...
