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Old 06-26-2018, 03:25 PM
 
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So they'd can watch your kids 8-9 hours a day and babysit a parent?
And imagine the liability if they got distracted before calling, and the child was left in the car.
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Old 06-26-2018, 03:34 PM
 
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OK, well! Clearly not being sued is far more important than a child's life or even the daycare's right to inquire why a missing kid didn't show up. Glad to know we all have our priorities straight.
The thing is, this happens a miniscule amount. This is really, really exceptionally rare. I know there are people who believe the philosophy that "all this effort will be worth it if we only save one child", but I don't believe in that. The monumental effort to call/text each time a toddler is absent from daycare would take a significant amount of time for the daycare and the parents who are running late/ill/on vacation.

The incidence of conjoined twins is higher than the incidence of babies being forgotten in cars and dying of heatstroke.

And it's so completely preventable, that parents should be taking the precautions everyone knows to do, if they don't have an every single day routine.

So, for those parents who switch off taking the child to daycare, put a shoe or your cell phone on the diaper bag next to the baby. Not hard.

Done and done. Anyone who now doesn't do that, and doesn't have an established routine of baby care, well, that's a shame.
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Old 06-26-2018, 03:42 PM
 
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The thing is, this happens a minuscule amount. This is really, really exceptionally rare. I know there are people who believe the philosophy that "all this effort will be worth it if we only save one child", but I don't believe in that. The monumental effort to call/text each time a toddler is absent from daycare would take a significant amount of time for the daycare and the parents who are running late/ill/on vacation.
Monumental effort? A typical daycare has no more than eight or ten babies/toddlers. How many of those are inexplicably absent on any given day? Probably, none.
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Old 06-26-2018, 03:45 PM
 
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Monumental effort? A typical daycare has no more than eight or ten babies/toddlers. How many of those are inexplicably absent on any given day? Probably, none.
I agree; what's so hard about calling the occasional parent who doesn't show up....and if a parent goes on vacation without telling the daycare, that's just rude.
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Old 06-26-2018, 03:58 PM
 
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Monumental effort? A typical daycare has no more than eight or ten babies/toddlers. How many of those are inexplicably absent on any given day? Probably, none.
That's one daycare - how many thousands of daycares are there? When you multiply that effort it becomes huge.

If daycares want to do it and take on that responsibility, and the parents are good with having to respond to a call when they're sick or they've been unexpectedly fired, or the child is sick, that's certainly and option and yes, it would cut down on babies accidentally forgotten.

OR, we can come at it another way. Parents are well aware this happens; prevent it.

I would empathize with day cares who didn't want that liability, that it was their responsibility to find out why the child wasn't at daycare, among all the other things they are doing.

Leave your phone or shoe on the diaper bag. Done. Because yes, in extremely rare instances, parents forget.
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Old 06-26-2018, 04:03 PM
 
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The monumental effort to call/text each time a toddler is absent from daycare would take a significant amount of time for the daycare and the parents who are running late/ill/on vacation.
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That's one daycare - how many thousands of daycares are there? When you multiply that effort it becomes huge.
It does not compute. The said "monumental effort" on a collective scale has no relevance here. Checking on the occasion child would take an average daycare employee very little time at all.
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Old 06-26-2018, 04:06 PM
 
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That's one daycare - how many thousands of daycares are there? When you multiply that effort it becomes huge.
Of course it would be huge...if one person was trying to do it all. That's like saying filling your car's gas tank every week or two takes a monumental effort because there are so many millions of cars in the country!
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Old 06-26-2018, 04:12 PM
 
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OK, well! Clearly not being sued is far more important than a child's life or even the daycare's right to inquire why a missing kid didn't show up. Glad to know we all have our priorities straight.
No, the parents subconsciously thinking everything must be fine because there was no phone call when normally they'd expect one in case of a problem, but the daycare happening not to call that one time, IS about the child's life.
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Old 06-26-2018, 04:15 PM
 
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No, the parents subconsciously thinking everything must be fine because there was no phone call when normally they'd expect one in case of a problem, but the daycare happening not to call that one time, IS about the child's life.
The parent is subconsciously thinking everything is OK, anyway. The daycare not calling makes no difference in that case.
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Old 06-26-2018, 04:23 PM
 
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You said this:



And then you said this:




It does not compute. The said "monumental effort" on a collective scale has no relevance here. Checking on the occasion child would take an average daycare employee very little time at all.
If you make a policy that requires all daycares/babysitters in their home/early child headstarts to contact parents if a 3 year old or younger is not dropped off as predicted, you've got a huge thing to manage. Monumental effort is too weak a word.

How do you get the info out to daycares? How do you enforce it? What exactly is the procedure - 1/2 hour after expected? An hour? What will the daycare do if the parent doesn't respond? Will the daycare then be required to follow up with a call to 911 for a well check, or a call to the employers of the parents? Again, within what time frame?

For parents who have some variability when they drop the child off, say, sometime between 7:30 and 8:30, when do you start the ticking time clock for the text reminder?

The thought that "all you'd have to do is . . .", and it's so little effort, is not true.

It's huge to make a policy change like that for caregivers.

When all the parents have to do, again, is put a shoe or phone on the diaper bag.

There. That requires zero government intervention and follow up and regulation, because it's the parents choice to do it or not.

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