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Old 08-24-2018, 05:27 AM
 
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The seat she was sitting on needed to fold up to make room for the wheelchair. She was sitting in a seat designated for Seniors and Persons With Disabilities. She is clearly a senior. She is an obnoxious *****, but she was within her legal right not to give up her seat. That is why the bus driver and his supervisor allowed her to remain seated and asked the man in a wheelchair to wait for the next bus.

Thanks, Cloudy. I haven't ridden a bus since I was a child, so I have no idea how the seating works today. She could have done the nice thing and changed her seat, but she was within her rights not to. The angry passengers should learn to control themselves in public. Speak if you must, but don't shout and threaten seniors. We live in an angry, "me first" world.
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Old 08-24-2018, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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Just unbelievable, the sense of entitlement - apparently, not only millenials can be blamed for 'taking care of numero uno' since this is an older lady. Video of incident, including the bus driver attempting to reason with her, in the link:

https://ktla.com/2018/08/22/video-of...parks-outrage/

If you saw this, how would you react?
That look in her eyes, the 1000 yard stare, she's one doughnut short of a dozen.
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Old 08-24-2018, 06:51 AM
miu
 
Location: MA/NH
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I think that as soon as it was clear that the woman wasn't moving, the bus should have continued on its way sooner.

Yes, handicapped people get the special sections and by the door, but it's also alright for them to wait for the next bus... just as all of us able-bodied people have when the bus or train arriving is already full. And just because they are disabled, doesn't mean that they have to get immediate service either.
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Old 08-24-2018, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Redwood City, CA
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I passed on this as soon as I saw "outrage" in the link. Tired of media outlets trying to yank us around with videos of people behaving badly.
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Old 08-24-2018, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Traveling
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It's been a long time since I rode in a bus but the ones I did ride & that were wheelchair accessible had clear signs stating people were to move it a wheelchair was in use. These seats are designed to fold up and have seat belts for the driver to secure the wheelchair.

If a person refused to move and caused such a rucus, she should have been told to get off the bus and if she refused, call the police to get her off. I don't care if she's an elder. These are the ONLY seats available to wheelchairs. They don't have choices, she did.
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Old 08-24-2018, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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It's been a long time since I rode in a bus but the ones I did ride & that were wheelchair accessible had clear signs stating people were to move it a wheelchair was in use. These seats are designed to fold up and have seat belts for the driver to secure the wheelchair.

If a person refused to move and caused such a rucus, she should have been told to get off the bus and if she refused, call the police to get her off. I don't care if she's an elder. These are the ONLY seats available to wheelchairs. They don't have choices, she did.

Such a sign was clearly visible in the video.



Yes, other seats were pointed out to her, passengers offered to shift around so that she could have another seat of her choice. She did nothing but shake her head repeatedly.
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Old 08-24-2018, 07:22 AM
 
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It's been a long time since I rode in a bus but the ones I did ride & that were wheelchair accessible had clear signs stating people were to move it a wheelchair was in use. These seats are designed to fold up and have seat belts for the driver to secure the wheelchair.

If a person refused to move and caused such a rucus, she should have been told to get off the bus and if she refused, call the police to get her off. I don't care if she's an elder. These are the ONLY seats available to wheelchairs. They don't have choices, she did.
You are in the wrong. Disabled/elderly people are supposed to sit in those seats. If disabled/elderly people are ALREADY in those seats then the person who wants to get on has to wait for the next bus, JUST AS ANYONE ELSE has to wait if the bus is full.

I HAVE used public buses since I became disabled. This is much ado about nothing, except that the bus driver should never have made an issue of it if the woman didn't move. I am unstable on my feet. Telling someone who is unsteady to walk to the back of the bus and find another seat is unsafe for that person. I have been literally knocked off my feet in a bus that started moving before I could even get to the handicap seats that are RIGHT IN FRONT. You don't have to be in a wheelchair to be endangered by trying to navigate the narrow aisles of a bus.
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Old 08-24-2018, 07:24 AM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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One minority making life hell for another. If she were a white woman, she would be called a racist. Rosa Parks is rolling over in her grave.
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Old 08-24-2018, 07:49 AM
 
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Just unbelievable, the sense of entitlement - apparently, not only millenials can be blamed for 'taking care of numero uno' since this is an older lady. Video of incident, including the bus driver attempting to reason with her, in the link:

https://ktla.com/2018/08/22/video-of...parks-outrage/

If you saw this, how would you react?
I would be writing to the bus company, and the ADA to make them aware, and ask them to designate further seats. As baby boomers are aging, buses are going to need more handicapped, and elderly spaces, period.
Now is the time to get that done! Well.... 10 years ago might have been the time to get it started..... but better late than never.
“Sense of entitlement”..... sigh.... no one knows that woman’s handicap, and judgement about her is senseless. We know nothing about her, and her disability may be far worse than a wheelchair (which we can all see).

The article and “outrage” is SUCH a waste of time. If you don’t like it, do something about it,take action to changes things instead of moaning. Instead this whole thread ends up as just “gossip”, truly.
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Old 08-24-2018, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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You are in the wrong. Disabled/elderly people are supposed to sit in those seats. If disabled/elderly people are ALREADY in those seats then the person who wants to get on has to wait for the next bus, JUST AS ANYONE ELSE has to wait if the bus is full.

I HAVE used public buses since I became disabled. This is much ado about nothing, except that the bus driver should never have made an issue of it if the woman didn't move. I am unstable on my feet. Telling someone who is unsteady to walk to the back of the bus and find another seat is unsafe for that person. I have been literally knocked off my feet in a bus that started moving before I could even get to the handicap seats that are RIGHT IN FRONT. You don't have to be in a wheelchair to be endangered by trying to navigate the narrow aisles of a bus.

And any reasonable person, disabled or not, when offered by the other bus patrons another seat of her choosing so that the man in the wheelchair could ALSO be accommodated, would have taken them up on their offer. Being disabled doesn't exempt you from common courtesy, especially to other disabled persons.
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