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Old 10-02-2018, 02:53 PM
Status: "Disagreeing is not the same thing as trolling." (set 18 days ago)
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Cape Cod Todd View Post
Maybe Dunkin needs to have a lesson from Starbucks that now lets people hang out and use the bathroom all day long without even buying anything.
Starbuck's has always let people come in and hang around, use their bathroom, wi-fi, etc. It's not a problem for them or anyone else.
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Old 10-02-2018, 02:54 PM
Status: "Disagreeing is not the same thing as trolling." (set 18 days ago)
 
Location: Texas
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Where was the manager while this was going on? Had he previously established a policy for dealing with homeless squatters? Did he provide adequate supervision for his staff? If I were DD corporate, I'd be asking the manager some hard questions.
The manager shouldn't have to watch his staff carefully to make sure they don't throw water on customers.

It's called being a decent human being. You don't throw water on someone.
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Old 10-02-2018, 03:00 PM
 
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Where was the manager while this was going on? Had he previously established a policy for dealing with homeless squatters? Did he provide adequate supervision for his staff? If I were DD corporate, I'd be asking the manager some hard questions.

I highly doubt that a manager at DD makes that much money. So think about this if you were corporate.

Does the manager does an overall good job?
Is business doing well under this manager?


You could sit there & get rid of the manager when it might not be anything he could do about it anyway then you're out of a good manager.

Don't get me wrong there are jobs out there that a manager/president/CEO should have to take responsibility regardless on whether they are at work or not. But this type of job is not one of them.
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Old 10-02-2018, 03:44 PM
 
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i keep typing out a response but i just can't think of the right thing to say. those guys are disgusting and deserved to be fired, the guy who poured the water and the person/people who were laughing. if they find that they will now have a hard time finding someone to hire them, they better hope that they don't end up homeless. sometimes i really hate people...
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Old 10-02-2018, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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A long time ago I was a bouncer in a bar. If you needed to go home, we'd grab you and toss you out. We'd tell you to go home. Then we'd get another as witness to tell the drunk to leave. If the drunk still didn't get it....well, we'd call the police and tell them a final time that the police had been called, and if they had any sense, they'd leave. The vast majority did. A few waited around until they saw the police and jetted. A few emboldened souls saw the last minute light when the officer would ask, "Did these men tell you to leave?" Anything other than yes, I'm leaving right now, meant it was lesson time. They'd grab the dude (never saw it on a lady) and pull them down the alley and whack them with their nightsticks a couple of times.

No arrest. No paperwork. Then they'd be gone again.

We didn't get repeat offenders. We had a very lively peaceful string of bars.

There were rules. If another bouncer saw someone calling early prior to repeatedly telling someone to go, they wouldn't be a bouncer anymore. I remember at the time thinking this actually worked pretty well.

So, forgive me when I say a little water after someone's been told to leave multiple time is no big deal for me. The big deal for me though is the attitude of bragging it up and the stupidity to film it. These are the unpleasant things that must be done to correct a behavior, not a chance to show one's power over another.
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Old 10-02-2018, 05:29 PM
 
Location: 912 feet above sea level
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Maybe Dunkin needs to have a lesson from Starbucks that now lets people hang out and use the bathroom all day long without even buying anything.
So... upon reading this story, your first instinct was to run interference on behalf of the people abusing the homeless man, huh?
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Old 10-02-2018, 05:37 PM
 
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I can't believe anyone would defend this behavior. How is pouring water on a stranger okay?.
Especially someone who is HOMELESS ..... The guy should be given food and they should try to help him find shelter....

This country is horrible now........
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Old 10-02-2018, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Nescopeck, Penna. (birthplace)
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Especially someone who is HOMELESS ..... The guy should be given food and they should try to help him find shelter....

This country is horrible now........
He should be taken, and temporarily confined to a place were he can't get out, and liquor and drugs can't get in.

He should then be confronted with a productive role he's expected to assume (It doesn't have to be too demanding at this phase).

If he refuses, he eats, but not very well; If he responds positively, he eats better, and hopefully, the path upward from that point is clear.

That is the law of the street, and of the marketplace; those who fail to recognize it are penalizing not only themselves, but all of those of us who try to respect the rules of all civilization. The less that law is respected and enforced, the more the "cycle of stupidity" will intensify.
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Old 10-02-2018, 09:04 PM
 
Location: southern kansas
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^^ I can see your point about this being a public establishment, but judging by the video the place was empty and he was not a threat to anyone. IMO, a little bit of kindness and compassion while politely asking him to leave would not have been misplaced.
Which prompts the question of "why was the store empty?". The case could be made that it was because he was there in the first place, and running off customers. And whether he was a 'threat' to anyone isn't the point. It has to do with appearances and public perception that a business owner has to maintain to keep customers coming into his store. Everyone who works there depends on that for their livelihood. It's not a matter of the store owner's views on homeless people, it has to do with the volume of patron traffic for his business. Like it or not the public at large will likely avoid a business that doesn't maintain a certain 'standard'.
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Old 10-02-2018, 09:17 PM
Status: "Disagreeing is not the same thing as trolling." (set 18 days ago)
 
Location: Texas
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A long time ago I was a bouncer in a bar. If you needed to go home, we'd grab you and toss you out. We'd tell you to go home. Then we'd get another as witness to tell the drunk to leave. If the drunk still didn't get it....well, we'd call the police and tell them a final time that the police had been called, and if they had any sense, they'd leave. The vast majority did. A few waited around until they saw the police and jetted. A few emboldened souls saw the last minute light when the officer would ask, "Did these men tell you to leave?" Anything other than yes, I'm leaving right now, meant it was lesson time. They'd grab the dude (never saw it on a lady) and pull them down the alley and whack them with their nightsticks a couple of times.
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This was Dunkin Donuts, not a bar.
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