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Old 10-03-2018, 10:36 AM
 
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I may be confusing you with another poster, but aren't you a self-professed Christian? If so, do you think your Jesus would approve of dumping pitchers of ice water on people like this guy?
Oh pah-lease. My Christian compassion is for the victimized business owners who can't operate their businesses their way anymore thanks to VIMP liberalism. It gets worse all the time too. I love how people attempt to twist everything when they disagree with a Christian. Jesus was an advocate for hard work, not bumming around sponging off of others. Read the Bible. You'll understand.

The kid has a right to not work. That's what freedom is all about. But not working doesn't give him the right to violate a businessman's rules and property. That's also what freedom is all about.

It IS possible to feel bad for the kid, but support the businesses that don't cater to bumming around.
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Old 10-03-2018, 10:47 AM
 
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Remember... a "bum" is someone who will not work.


There is also... loitering.



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Old 10-03-2018, 11:05 AM
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Oh pah-lease. My Christian compassion is for the victimized business owners who can't operate their businesses their way anymore thanks to VIMP liberalism. It gets worse all the time too. I love how people attempt to twist everything when they disagree with a Christian. Jesus was an advocate for hard work, not bumming around sponging off of others. Read the Bible. You'll understand.
Jesus wouldn't pour water over someone who was simply sitting at a table, not harming anyone else. Go read your Bible. Jesus was also an advocate for giving to the poor.
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Old 10-03-2018, 11:12 AM
 
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Oh pah-lease. My Christian compassion is for the victimized business owners who can't operate their businesses their way anymore thanks to VIMP liberalism. It gets worse all the time too. I love how people attempt to twist everything when they disagree with a Christian. Jesus was an advocate for hard work, not bumming around sponging off of others. Read the Bible. You'll understand.

The kid has a right to not work. That's what freedom is all about. But not working doesn't give him the right to violate a businessman's rules and property. That's also what freedom is all about.

It IS possible to feel bad for the kid, but support the businesses that don't cater to bumming around.
How exactly is this business being victimized?

They are having to tolerate one unemployed person sleeping on their property. Tell me what economic loss they have suffered over this? My heart bleeds for them.

No one here has blamed Dunkin Donuts for what happened. I think the vast majority of people understand that they didn't instruct this employee to dump ice water on a customer. Dunkin Donuts did what it should have done. They fired this employee for doing it. We accept the problem is with the employee.

I guess the good Lord is a better judge of Christians than I am. However, you don't sound like any Christian that I ever knew.
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Old 10-03-2018, 11:16 AM
 
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Jesus wouldn't pour water over someone who was simply sitting at a table, not harming anyone else. Go read your Bible. Jesus was also an advocate for giving to the poor.

Absolutely.

Proverbs 14:31 New King James Version (NKJV)

31 He who oppresses the poor reproaches his Maker,
But he who honors Him has mercy on the needy.
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Old 10-03-2018, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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Jesus wouldn't pour water over someone who was simply sitting at a table, not harming anyone else. Go read your Bible. Jesus was also an advocate for giving to the poor.

Since we're twisting things here....isn't that exactly what baptism is? That baby....causing beef with their original sin. Are we now assaulting babies?


More on point, my memory isn't so good. Could you remind me how Jesus handled moneychangers at the temple?
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Old 10-03-2018, 11:32 AM
 
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Jesus wouldn't pour water over someone who was simply sitting at a table, not harming anyone else. Go read your Bible. Jesus was also an advocate for giving to the poor.

Not true. He was trespassing. Once you refuse to leave a place of business upon being asked to do so, you become a trespasser. Period. A hard luck life story doesn't change that.

And I never said it's proper to dump water over his head. I'm simply not feeling sorry for someone who, due to a willful choice and repeated acts of disrespect to the owner, went from a "poor homeless guy" to trespasser. Get over it and go earn your keep. Proverbs 6:6.

The staff could have called the police and had him arrested for trespassing. I'm sorry they didn't make that choice, but it changes nothing.
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Old 10-03-2018, 11:37 AM
 
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Oh, dear Lord. A criminal assault? Are you serious? It's water!

The guy sleeps all day at a coffee shop. He isn't wanted. He's been asked to stop sleeping there. He refuses. So big deal, they dumped a pitcher of water on his head. Go sleep somewhere else.

I suspect the color of the employees has everything to do with people's feigned outrage.


Of course you would think that. That's is all people like you ever think of.

All I see is people just being plain cruel. The parents of those employees did a very poor job raising them..or maybe they are just born that way.
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Old 10-03-2018, 11:40 AM
 
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Oh pah-lease. My Christian compassion is for the victimized business owners who can't operate their businesses their way anymore thanks to VIMP liberalism. It gets worse all the time too. I love how people attempt to twist everything when they disagree with a Christian. Jesus was an advocate for hard work, not bumming around sponging off of others. Read the Bible. You'll understand.

The kid has a right to not work. That's what freedom is all about. But not working doesn't give him the right to violate a businessman's rules and property. That's also what freedom is all about.

It IS possible to feel bad for the kid, but support the businesses that don't cater to bumming around.
The kid is a brain-damaged individual with schizophrenia. The last thing he needs is to be harassed by people who lack compassion. And how was he trespassing? This is a business, not private property. Anyone who enters during business hours is not trespassing. And what does this have to do with liberalism? This country is in big trouble if compassion for others is restricted to liberals and objectionable.
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Old 10-03-2018, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Seminole County, FL
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Not true. He was trespassing. Once you refuse to leave a place of business upon being asked to do so, you become a trespasser. Period. A hard luck life story doesn't change that.

And I never said it's proper to dump water over his head. I'm simply not feeling sorry for someone who, due to a willful choice and repeated acts of disrespect to the owner, went from a "poor homeless guy" to trespasser. Get over it and go earn your keep. Proverbs 6:6.

The staff could have called the police and had him arrested for trespassing. I'm sorry they didn't make that choice, but it changes nothing.
I can agree with this.

Also, while he may not have been harming anyone per say, I wonder, did he smell? I was at Publix just a few days ago, in line waiting for my sandwich order, when a homeless man stood by the fridge picking through pre-made items for a few minutes. He smelled absolutely terrible, even from a distance. People moved away from him. It was repulsive.
I'm pretty sure no one who saw what he was touching purchased any of those items either.

If this man smelled anything like the one I encountered at Publix, I highly doubt anyone would want to sit at a table near him.
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