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Old 12-04-2018, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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I never said it's "not a big deal." Way to take things out of context.

I said it wouldn't "ruin my life."

The same way I was VERY upset when my house was broken into a few years ago, but it did not ruin my life.

How are you (and others) associating "not a big deal" with "ruining ones life?"
But when you google your name, your house getting broken into isn't the first result. Your house doesn't keep getting broken into again and again.

There's a nude video of this woman floating around on the internet with her real name attached, and she can't control it. She doesn't know who has it, where else it's been uploaded, or how many times it's been viewed. That's extremely unsettling.
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Old 12-04-2018, 04:01 PM
 
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It happened in July 2015, so I wonder why she didn't find out until September 2018.
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Old 12-04-2018, 04:25 PM
 
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And as a company, Hilton does need to ensure that their guests are safe. It's not some sleazy motel.
Exactly. It's not Gerald Foos and his Manor House Motel.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...-voyeurs-motel
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Old 12-04-2018, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Seminole County, FL
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Shouldn't be too hard to prosecute the perp. Hilton will pay out big $$$ (as they should) and this creep is going to be locked up for a while. Why anyone would go through such ridiculous measures to see a naked woman is beyond me. There are plenty of people willing to go nude and do all kinds of other crazy stuff on camera and in person (strip clubs, etc) that don't violate someone's privacy, and don't land you in hot water.
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Old 12-04-2018, 05:23 PM
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Location: Texas
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For ****'s sake, where did I say I'd be okay with it???
I said it wouldn't "ruin my life." And no, it wouldn't. :
So what if the woman said it ruined her life. "She" is not the problem here. Her reaction is not the problem here.

A pervert secretly filming people and exposing them online is the problem. Not the attitudes of the victims.
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Old 12-04-2018, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Seminole County, FL
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So what if the woman said it ruined her life. "She" is not the problem here. Her reaction is not the problem here.

A pervert secretly filming people and exposing them online is the problem. Not the attitudes of the victims.
Okay? Which is why I said it would not "ruin MY life." It would be a terrifying situation nonetheless. I never said -- nor implied -- that she is the problem. I simply questioned how it would "ruin her life." I'm SURE she did not mean it literally, and I was responding to a poster who pointed that out.

You seem to have quite a habit of twisting posters' words around. I'm noticing a trend. I've also noticed several people commenting on this.

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She clearly has a case, IMHO, at least against the recorder and blackmailer.

I'm not sure she has a solid case against the hotel, unless they knew/had reason to know.

But I really am saddened that someone thinks a nude video of her showering would "ruin her life". Girls commit suicide over this. It's highly likely she's attractive, and anyone who looks at her clothed can pretty well guess exactly what she looks like naked, so it's sad that she feels ruined by this.
Of course, you probably didn't even bother to read what it was I was replying to.
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Old 12-04-2018, 05:37 PM
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Location: Texas
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But when you google your name, your house getting broken into isn't the first result. Your house doesn't keep getting broken into again and again.

There's a nude video of this woman floating around on the internet with her real name attached, and she can't control it. She doesn't know who has it, where else it's been uploaded, or how many times it's been viewed. That's extremely unsettling.
Agree.
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Old 12-04-2018, 06:37 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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This stuff I think happens much, much more than anyone realizes. There was a clothing store that sold Juniors clothes in south Jersey where the owner had put a secret camera in the dressing rooms. I recall nothing happened to him legally, due to a loophole where as long as there's no audio, there's no crime. With the teeny tiny cameras they make now, I would be surprised to discover we haven't all been secretly filmed at some point. There's a "spy" store in one of the AC casinos that sell cameras that look exactly like clocks, smoke detectors and any manner of normal thing you'd find in a home. Any maintenance man in any dorm or apartment building or hotel could hide a camera anywhere. There's probably one in every 10th Air BNB.
Of course there was a crime! That footage was child porn! The patrons were pre-teens and teens. What planet is NJ on, that that wouldn't be a crime???!

Bad publicity for Hilton. Hopefully they'll screen their employees better, now, but....how? And what about all the other hotels, etc.?
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Old 12-04-2018, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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So you would be ok with someone unknowingly taking video of you in a private moment and then posting it on the net for anyone to see. Coworkers, friends, family, that guy who is always looking at you a bit longingly by the water cooler (btw probably him that took the videos) your boss, literally anyone.

You would be ok with that. Or is it one of those hey it’s ok as long as it isn’t me
I/d be OK with it for a payout of a lot less than a hunnerd mill. The issue here is not whether she has a case, but how much is just compensation. If she had gone to Hilton, and their lawyers said "we'll give you $10,000 to forget about it", she'd have taken the money and bragged about it, calling herself the world's highest priced stripper..
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Old 12-04-2018, 06:44 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Exactly. You sue whoever has the money.

Truthfully I think companies really need to do better security checks on people they hire.
When I hired people I had a few requirements that were really non negotiable.
No, you sue a business the advertises peaceful, comfortable, well-appointed lodging, which, by implication, is safe. The question is, are hotels responsible for providing safety for their patrons? That should be a fun debate in court.
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