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Old Yesterday, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, AK
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Wow, that's disgusting. They should DNA test all of the male staff. And, after reading the above, all of the male patients as well.

Ever hear of the Fourth Amendment?
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Old Yesterday, 11:17 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, AK
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There is plenty of probable cause. This was rape, which is a crime.

They should do a DNA test on every male worker (nurse, aide, etc.) who came in that woman's room about 9 months prior. These places also have cameras and they can pull that information too.

Probable cause relates to a suspect, not the crime. You need to find probable cause for an individual, not an entire class of people.
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Old Yesterday, 11:25 PM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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When he is found I hope he is put to death.
Approximately how many executions do you think there ought to be every year?
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Old Yesterday, 11:42 PM
 
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Hope so too....

they've known for months she was pregnant, wonder what the investigators are doing, asking male employees for DNA??? Could even have been a visitor but employee seems more likely, he would be familiar with schedules and surroundings.

The last time I heard of a nursing home rape the man was found not guilty/reason of insanity.
IDK about an employee, they would have to know they are going to be the first ones that are suspected when someone like this ends up pregnant, a random visitor/ stranger is more likely imo.
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Old Yesterday, 11:55 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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IDK about an employee, they would have to know they are going to be the first ones that are suspected when someone like this ends up pregnant, a random visitor/ stranger is more likely imo.

Since you're apparently unaware of just how prevalent these incidents of rape and sexual abuse of comatose/disabled patients by hospital staff are...Google is your friend.
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Old Today, 12:21 AM
 
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You know what is disgusting to me? When first reaction to human suffering is to cast blame and exact vengeance. To the full extent of the law. No matter what the cost. Even if it causes further suffering, to more people.
Sorry, I've just got to ask. To clarify, are you saying that whoever raped and impregnated a comatose 24 year old girl should not be found and punished, because it would cause the rapist to "suffer"?

Personally, the only quote that comes to mind is from a forty-something year old Cheech and Chong album, maybe "Big Bambu":
Female Judge: "Bailiff, whack his pee-pee!"
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Old Today, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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Sorry, I've just got to ask. To clarify, are you saying that whoever raped and impregnated a comatose 24 year old girl should not be found and punished, because it would cause the rapist to "suffer"?

Personally, the only quote that comes to mind is from a forty-something year old Cheech and Chong album, maybe "Big Bambu":
Female Judge: "Bailiff, whack his pee-pee!"

Didn't say that at all. I said that blame and punishment ought not be the uppermost reaction that comes to mind. First, concern ourselves with victims and maybe the holes in the system that readily enable the abuse. There will be plenty of time later for vigilantes to string him up without a trial, if that's what is important to you.

Do you have any idea how many school children's daddy is in prison? What do you think that's like? My ex-wife was one of them.
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Old Today, 06:44 AM
 
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Let me get this straight, nursing staff (who presumably include at least LPNs/LVNs) and or some professional nurses (RNs) didn't notice this woman was pregnant for all of the nine months.


No one noticed even the slightest change in this female's figure, weight.... anything during AM/PM care, bathing, changing or whatever.


Hope this woman's family sues the pants off this place. The funds can then be used to provide financial security for the wee tyke.

I agree completely. How did staff not know she was pregnant for 9 months? That's difficult to believe.
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Old Today, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Concord NC
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"Your name is Buck, right?"
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Old Today, 08:38 AM
 
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Didn't say that at all. I said that blame and punishment ought not be the uppermost reaction that comes to mind. First, concern ourselves with victims and maybe the holes in the system that readily enable the abuse. There will be plenty of time later for vigilantes to string him up without a trial, if that's what is important to you.
Do you have any idea how many school children's daddy is in prison? What do you think that's like? My ex-wife was one of them.
Whew - sorry if I misunderstood your point. But even then, putting someone in "the system" is more than vengeance, or even rehabilitation. It's restitution / "justice" for past behavior, which if not forced, creates a society without consequences for actions - and that's a scary place. And probably more importantly, it hopefully prevents the Bad Guy from harming the next victim. Any damage incurred by your ex-wife's kids is on the perpetrator of the crime, not society as a whole. If Daddy did something so heinous that he was put in jail for it, that's on him, not me. Doesn't it concern you that whoever did this could be working in another facility, doing the same thing to someone else?
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