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Old 01-11-2019, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Seminole County, FL
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It's amazing how, despite the facts presented, people out there will still make up outright lies to suit their agendas. It's actually frightening, to be honest. With the internet, we all have easy access to find out more information about certain things in order to form an opinion. Yet, despite that readily available information, some choose to deliberately ignore it and continue to state outright lies and misinformation. Why do people do this?

On other websites, people have attacked me for my opinions. These people continue to preach falsehoods such as Cyntoia being 'sex trafficked' and how she was a sex slave who was abused and threatened by the victim before executing him in cold blood. They also state that Cyntoia had the IQ of someone 9 years old and other lies.

And it's the same here. We have people claiming that she was a 'sex slave' who was repeatedly raped by the man she shot in the head. All outright lies.

It's apparent that these blind Cyntoia supporters are so desperate to justify her cold blooded execution of the victim, that they are fudging the facts to suit their viewpoints. Portraying the victim as someone that bought Cyntoia as a sex slave and raping her repeatedly, sounds far better to them than the reality, in that there was absolutely no evidence that the victim intended to even have sex with her (or knew her true age of 16 years). The fact is, the two never met before, never had sex, and they spent the time at his place engaging in rather mundane activities such as eating fast food and watching tv. Cyntoia had in fact waited over a week with her boyfriend to find someone to rob, and the victim happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I'm glad the mods took action against one particular poster who was making some rather vile and disturbing accusations against others who chose to review facts. That person (whose name shall remain anonymous) has been spewing nonsense and insults for too long, not only here, but in various other threads.
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Old 01-11-2019, 12:01 PM
 
Location: In my skin
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Those are not the facts. There is no evidence that he hired her for sex at all. He asked if she needed a ride. He bought her fast food. They ate it in his kitchen. They watched music videos and then fell asleep. He never asked her for sex. No sex ever happened. That's Ms Brown's story who would have every reason to say it did.
I didn't say they had sex, I said he hired her for consensual sex in response to the suggestion that Allen was a predator. She would also have every reason to say it didn't happen if she's claiming self defense and shot him to rob him. She admitted in a later hearing that they agreed to sex for $150.
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:18 PM
 
Location: In my skin
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Yep


Murder of Johnny Allen

On the night of 5 August 2004, 16-year-old Brown met 43-year-old Johnny Mitchell Allen in the parking lot of a Sonic Drive-In on Murfreesboro Road in Nashville, Tennessee. Allen was a real estate broker and a United States Army veteran.[12] Based on what Brown told investigators, Allen asked her if she was hungry and if she was homeless.[13][14] Brown answered yes to both questions and accepted Allen's offer to take her to his house. Brown and Allen ordered dinner and Allen drove the pair to his home.[15][16] At a later hearing, Brown testified that she agreed to have sex with Allen for US$150, but claimed that they never actually engaged in sexual intercourse.[9][16][17][18]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyntoia_Brown
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:46 PM
 
Location: (six-cent-dix-sept)
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i think shes clearly a messed up child.
shes currently being punished. maybe everyone in this situation would be better off if she was rehabilitated to understand that performing sexual favors and other crimes for a pimp (whos only pretending to love her because she is willing to commit crimes for him) is not healthy being in society.
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Old 01-11-2019, 05:56 PM
 
Location: In my skin
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I actually don't think the majority her supporters want prostitution legalized.
I don't think so either, which is pretty stunning considering so many of them are huge supporters of bodily autonomy.

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Personally; I think both prostitution & solicitation should be illegal as a Petty Offense without penalty for those over age 18
It really shouldn't be illegal at all. There is no valid basis to criminalize it. What is the difference between giving it out for free vs. $150 besides $150? Who is harmed?

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I think Pimping of all ages should be a Felony offense with penalty*.
I consider it trafficking. But there's that bodily autonomy thing again. I'm truly torn on this one.

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Proceeds from self-exploitation should stay with the self.)
What makes it self-exploitation?
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Old 01-11-2019, 05:58 PM
 
Location: In my skin
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So, what are the odds she ends up right back on the street, and soon after right back in jail?
She has a degree and is working towards a BA. I hope she doesn't have to, but I think it will always be an option.
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Old 01-11-2019, 06:01 PM
 
Location: In my skin
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are you o.k. with 11 year olds signing a 30-year mortgage for a 1 bedroom princess themed cond with a t.i.l. valued at $1.5 ? who should pay when the mortgage defaults: the adult predatory mortgage specialist or the child who has no capable understanding of how things like amortization schedules work.
I really don't understand why folks are piling on this guy who said nothing about it being OK to prey on 11 year olds.
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Old 01-11-2019, 06:08 PM
 
Location: In my skin
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Originally Posted by Suburban_Guy View Post
It's amazing how, despite the facts presented, people out there will still make up outright lies to suit their agendas. It's actually frightening, to be honest. With the internet, we all have easy access to find out more information about certain things in order to form an opinion. Yet, despite that readily available information, some choose to deliberately ignore it and continue to state outright lies and misinformation. Why do people do this?

On other websites, people have attacked me for my opinions. These people continue to preach falsehoods such as Cyntoia being 'sex trafficked' and how she was a sex slave who was abused and threatened by the victim before executing him in cold blood. They also state that Cyntoia had the IQ of someone 9 years old and other lies.

And it's the same here. We have people claiming that she was a 'sex slave' who was repeatedly raped by the man she shot in the head. All outright lies.
There is a payoff to the suffering of others. It's great to put on a cape and be outraged about stuff. It's actually pretty narcissistic.

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It's apparent that these blind Cyntoia supporters are so desperate to justify her cold blooded execution of the victim, that they are fudging the facts to suit their viewpoints. Portraying the victim as someone that bought Cyntoia as a sex slave and raping her repeatedly, sounds far better to them than the reality, in that there was absolutely no evidence that the victim intended to even have sex with her (or knew her true age of 16 years). The fact is, the two never met before, never had sex, and they spent the time at his place engaging in rather mundane activities such as eating fast food and watching tv. Cyntoia had in fact waited over a week with her boyfriend to find someone to rob, and the victim happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Actually, she later admitted that they agreed to have sex for $150. And, I believe she also lied about having sex with him. I think this was revealed in the documentary, can't remember specifically right now.

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It's always been like that - especially with sex and rape cases.
There is something about sex that makes people lose their shiznit, generally.
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Old 01-11-2019, 06:16 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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I was surprised to find out that she was diagnosed with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome during the trial & that the evidence was submitted ... yet that apparently was not taken into consideration during sentencing.

Iíll be honest; Iím pretty skeptical about her .. but still; a juvenile offender with neurological disorder receiving that sentence? Unbelievable.

I did read somewhere that her IQ was 134. Thatís a huge asset, however; that combination of high IQ/ FAS-related behavioral disorder? Is sorta sketchy. She needs to steer way clear of old ďfriendsĒ & hangouts.
Wow. The human potential that gets wasted, due to lousy life circumstances when growing up!
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Old 01-12-2019, 11:18 AM
 
Location: NY>FL>VA>NC>IN
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Wow. The human potential that gets wasted, due to lousy life circumstances when growing up!
I would question this IQ result in light of the dx of FAS/crack exposure in utero. Could be false data provided by one of her blind, misguided supporters.

Honestly I think she was a typical juvenile product of the ghetto culture who fell into prostitution as many in that demographic do, and valued life not at all as ghetto/gang culture teaches one not to do; she likely shot him without much aforethought and has poor impulse control as FAS victims often do.

That said I do think the time she has already served is sufficient to the crime, and if she is truly rehabbed than great! She can be a taxpayer now instead of a tax burden.

There are many child abuse cases wherein the abuser gets 5, 10, 15 years, many upon many. So for what this gal did, I think her sentence was a tad excessive.
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