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Old 01-29-2019, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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Oh, but he's an army veteran, and that makes him deserving of special consideration. Army veterans are not like the rest of us, subject to the ordinary rules and limitations of conduct, and enjoy special privileges. Like, they get to sing the national anthem before ball games.
Says the ex-pat, bravely.

The only bearing his veteran status has on the issue is that he's trained and conditioned to deal with conflict and physical confrontation... and it must have been that much harder for him to resist doing something.
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Old 01-29-2019, 08:40 PM
 
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Says the ex-pat, bravely.
+1 Not the one I want covering my back.
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Old 01-29-2019, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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Oh, but he's an army veteran, and that makes him deserving of special consideration. Army veterans are not like the rest of us, subject to the ordinary rules and limitations of conduct, and enjoy special privileges. Like, they get to sing the national anthem before ball games.

Your disdain for veterans comes through, loud and clear.

We get the picture.
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Old 01-30-2019, 11:09 AM
 
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Oh, but he's an army veteran, and that makes him deserving of special consideration. Army veterans are not like the rest of us, subject to the ordinary rules and limitations of conduct, and enjoy special privileges. Like, they get to sing the national anthem before ball games.
No, not deserving of special considerations, but a vet would know how to do something like this without getting hurt too.
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Old 01-30-2019, 01:57 PM
 
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While the guard may have had good intentions, his actions clearly went against policy. As we have seen the past years, corporations do not look kindly upon employees acting like heroes, and their reasoning is perfectly understandable. At least the guy realizes what he did and doesn't blame Best Buy for being let go, unlike what others might have done (trying to 'shame' a company for being let go).

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/army...224439982.html
They reversed their decision but I have to wonder why they have a security guard if he canít do anything? I understand not allowing cashiers and other employees, but what good is he if he canít do his job?
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Old 01-30-2019, 02:08 PM
 
Location: equator
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They reversed their decision but I have to wonder why they have a security guard if he canít do anything? I understand not allowing cashiers and other employees, but what good is he if he canít do his job?
I wonder this too. What then is the point of a security guard?

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How unusual.
LOL. And agree that him being a vet, would be that much harder to stand by and do nothing.
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Old 01-30-2019, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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No, not deserving of special considerations, but a vet would know how to do something like this without getting hurt too.
Well, maybe. Basic doesn't make you bulletproof.

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They reversed their decision but I have to wonder why they have a security guard if he canít do anything? I understand not allowing cashiers and other employees, but what good is he if he canít do his job?
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I wonder this too. What then is the point of a security guard?
There's a difference between being a visible symbol of security, acting to stop an active threat to staff and customers on the premises, (to a lesser degree) acting to stop property damage and loss on the premises... and chasing someone who is fleeing and thus no longer a threat.

And if I read the original story right (noting it's in my old home town)... this was a completely unrelated public incident that at most occurred in the store's parking lot. None of the guard's business while standing there in store employ, and a huge potential liability - just suppose the perp was innocent or the wrong guy, and the guard seriously injured him while "helping"?

I don't like any of this and I'm glad the store reconsidered. But this is not the flagrant pro-crime, anti-intervention, namby-pamby-lib'ral etc. case it's made out to be by some.
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Old 01-30-2019, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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People are so out of touch.
Yes. Time to leave house and the computer and venture outside.
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Old 01-30-2019, 05:15 PM
 
Location: The Carolinas
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Maybe the police department he helped should hire him.
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Old 01-31-2019, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Murrica
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As an Army Veteran with 20+ years of service, I personally can't understand what his status has to do with any of this.

We aren't trained to chase bad guys in a combat situation. You shoot them. But the whole issue I have with this story is that the guy was given specific instructions on how to perform his duty. Period. He didn't follow his orders and, as such, would be worthless to me as a Soldier.

Every Soldier knows, or should know, their 3 General Orders. This dude forgot all 3.

1. I will guard everything within the limits of my post and quit my post only when properly relieved.

2. I will obey my special orders and perform all of my duties in a military manner.

3. I will report violations of my special orders, emergencies, and anything not covered in my instructions to the commander of the relief.
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