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Old Yesterday, 11:12 PM
 
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The large woman who says she's a frequent flyer with privileges should simply have asked for her loyalty upgrade - no?
The woman complaining on phone is a typical passive aggressive whiner who rather than doing the appropriate thing is rude to her fellow passengers.


The woman upset with being placed between two obviously overweight people should have first hit the call button and requested a seat reassignment. If denied she should have requested in a non threatening manner to happily swap with a member of the flight crew and request their jump seat rather than being placed in that position. Either way both women were rude and seemingly typical of the 'Jerry Springer' crowd.


Excessively large passengers should be required to purchase the space to accommodate them appropriately. As someone else mentioned if the two were traveling together they should have paid for three seats to accommodate their excessive girth.


I used to travel frequently in a past job and had this situation once. Fortunately, it was short flight from Dallas to Houston and I (6'2 185 male) was sandwiched between to two overweight businessmen both of whom had to weigh over 250 pounds or more with their bulging flab touching me. No chance to move (full plane) and since short flight I didn't make a scene.



The airlines are simply buses in the sky. If they wanted to correct customer service issues they could but they really don't. All that wasted time waiting at gates before boarding could have an educational boarding rules process sizing check in and passenger conduct video looping along with terms and conditions on every ticket that people would have to check to accept before purchase.
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Old Yesterday, 11:19 PM
 
Location: East Cobb, GA
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I’m sure the lady had already applied and was denied an upgrade likely due to full capacity of the plane.

United is always in the midst of PR nightmare. Does anyone think that they would force her to sit there or have police escort her off? No they’ll do their damnedest to accommodate everyone.
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Old Today, 12:03 AM
 
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If you're too wide to stay in your seat, you should have to pay for a second seat. I'd require that even if they flight isn't full...they're taking more than one seat, so they should pay more.
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Old Today, 01:33 AM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Not really fair when you pay for a ticket and then get stuck between two people who take up more than their share of space.
From what I could see on that poorly-taken video, she wasn't being squeezed all that much.
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Old Today, 01:38 AM
 
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I'm not hostile, I'm a realist. They are fat. They didn't get that way by pushing away from the dinner table and engaging in a suitable, healthy amount of exercise. That's their right and their business.

My empathy and compassion end when they demand the rest of us bend over for them... by calling us rude when we refuse to be "PC Silent" while they squeeze us out of our airline seats.
1) Given that you don't know WHY they're overweight, would your response have been more muted if a medical condition made them obese? I'm not saying that whatever the reason they're overweight, that they shouldn't pay for two seats. I'm wondering why your response has been so verbally aggressive, and seems angry.

2) Dare I say, your response wasn't seen as rude because of what you said, but how you said it. A person can be quite vocal, and direct without being rude -- or PC. Not being PC (or being PC) has nothing to do with being rude.
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Old Today, 02:36 AM
 
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Btw, I can't watch the video with sound right now (due to settings on my device) - but from the video alone, I can see she isn't exactly svelte herself.
She says at least twice to her seatmates, "Look, I eat salads, OK?" I'm guessing she wouldn't know a salad unless it bit her on her keester.

Look, she wasn't necessarily wrong for wanting to not be squished for the flight, but she was wrong to be openly hostile to the people sitting next to her, she could have done this in a much more subdued and kind manner, what did she gain by verbally shaming them? If she has any compassion in her at all, she'll regret doing this and apologize to them if she's ever interviewed.

That being said, this is all on the airlines, who could provide larger, more expensive seats, "cubicle partitions" between seats to better define the space one is paying for, etc.. I've got a buddy pushing me to go to Vegas with he and his wife next month, but to be honest, between having to endure the air travel and airport experience, the mandatory Vegas "Resort Fees", the goofy time of year to go to Vegas in the first place (pools aren't open, 30's in the evening, etc.) and the whole "Vegas isn't Vegas anymore" (decreased returns when gambling, expensive dining, accommodations, and entertainment, etc.) my heart just isn't in it. But "Friends"....
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Old Today, 02:50 AM
 
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Overweight/over sized individuals who fail to purchase a second seat are selfish, inconsiderate and don't deserve sympathy.

If you wanted to eat one and one half hamburgers, would you order two or order one and plan on eating one half of someone else's?
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Old Today, 04:32 AM
 
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1) Given that you don't know WHY they're overweight, would your response have been more muted if a medical condition made them obese? I'm not saying that whatever the reason they're overweight, that they shouldn't pay for two seats. I'm wondering why your response has been so verbally aggressive, and seems angry.

2) Dare I say, your response wasn't seen as rude because of what you said, but how you said it. A person can be quite vocal, and direct without being rude -- or PC. Not being PC (or being PC) has nothing to do with being rude.

Does not matter why they are obese, plus even if it's a medical reason for obesity you can not have extra fat if you aren't putting enough in your mouth to create the extra fat.



The slower your metabolism the less you have to eat to stay alive. food is fuel for the body but too many view food as recreation eating more than it takes to keep your organs functioning.


Take it from someone who used to be 345-Lbs, and can now fit in one of my old pant legs.
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Old Today, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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I'm not hostile, I'm a realist. They are fat. They didn't get that way by pushing away from the dinner table and engaging in a suitable, healthy amount of exercise. That's their right and their business.

My empathy and compassion end when they demand the rest of us bend over for them... by calling us rude when we refuse to be "PC Silent" while they squeeze us out of our airline seats.

That poor passenger had sweaty blubber coming at her from both sides. Anybody who would sit there for an entire flight and not ask for another seat is a fool.
I'm thinking you do not know too many big people closely. Well I do and I can tell you it's a constant struggle. Being born with slow metabolism is a curse and it's not as simple as putting away the Oreos in most cases. My friend eats more salads than anyone I know, by a long shot. He is constantly aware of his diet and denies himself plenty of things we all get to enjoy, yet he is still much bigger than most.

With that said I certainly would not have wanted to be in that seat. But you know what I would not do? Act like an ass as this woman did. Her comments were not insensitive, they were incredibly hurtful and she deserved to get booted from the plain. Good for the crew for handling this perfectly.
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Old Today, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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The large woman who says she's a frequent flyer with privileges should simply have asked for her loyalty upgrade - no?
The woman complaining on phone is a typical passive aggressive whiner who rather than doing the appropriate thing is rude to her fellow passengers.


The woman upset with being placed between two obviously overweight people should have first hit the call button and requested a seat reassignment. If denied she should have requested in a non threatening manner to happily swap with a member of the flight crew and request their jump seat rather than being placed in that position. Either way both women were rude and seemingly typical of the 'Jerry Springer' crowd.


Excessively large passengers should be required to purchase the space to accommodate them appropriately. As someone else mentioned if the two were traveling together they should have paid for three seats to accommodate their excessive girth.


I used to travel frequently in a past job and had this situation once. Fortunately, it was short flight from Dallas to Houston and I (6'2 185 male) was sandwiched between to two overweight businessmen both of whom had to weigh over 250 pounds or more with their bulging flab touching me. No chance to move (full plane) and since short flight I didn't make a scene.



The airlines are simply buses in the sky. If they wanted to correct customer service issues they could but they really don't. All that wasted time waiting at gates before boarding could have an educational boarding rules process sizing check in and passenger conduct video looping along with terms and conditions on every ticket that people would have to check to accept before purchase.

Yes, they were both rude. And the other passengers didn't offer to change places with the woman, so they should've just shut up. Most news outlets seem to have gotten it wrong, too, because it wasn't the whiner who was loud, foul-mouthed, ranting, having a meltdown, or any of the other words or expressions used for attention-grabbing headlines. It was the "award-winning nurse."

The most interesting thing here? The two obese passengers are partners, who are so fat THEY can't sit next to each other. Yet, it's perfectly acceptable to squeeze an unsuspecting passenger between them on a four-hour flight. Yeah, that's why she wasn't "booted" from the plane, but was accommodated with another United flight early the next morning--and why the obese woman's "complaint" went nowhere.

This is air travel today. Everyone else's issues have to be accommodated. It's United that needs more than their wimpy "obesity policy," which does nothing to address the comfort of passengers in their "friendly skies."

And they shouldn't try to squeeze passenger between two others who are already encroaching on the middle seat.
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