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Old 02-01-2019, 06:24 PM
 
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They won't give up on the old girl! Looks like she could become a static hotel or some such purpose. Sadly the SS United States won't sail the seas again ever it seems.


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Old 02-01-2019, 08:05 PM
 
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It's sad when we see that things we cherished get thrown on the junk heap. Many years ago, my squadron was assigned to the U.S.S Independence CVA-62 Was wondering about its status to find that it was decommissioned and mothballed at the Bremerton ship yard.
It will never become a static hotel.
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Old 02-01-2019, 08:25 PM
 
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It's sad when we see that things we cherished get thrown on the junk heap. Many years ago, my squadron was assigned to the U.S.S Independence CVA-62 Was wondering about its status to find that it was decommissioned and mothballed at the Bremerton ship yard.
It will never become a static hotel.


You know, sort of agree. Would have been better years ago if she were sent to the bottom with a dignified burial.


People get all misty eyed over the SS United States, as is their right I suppose; but there is nothing left of the old girl but a rusting hulk. Richard H. Hadley and subsequent owners largely looted the ship for anything of value that could be sold and as such stripped her not just of fittings but much more.


Modern SOLAS requirements means SS United States never will sail as a steam ship under her own power. Converting her to meet those new requirements including installing diesel electric proplusion would be huge undertaking/expense. Likely could build one or more new ships for less.


Then there the matter of her aluminum superstructure.


Still railroads are resurrecting old steam locomotives people once thought would never run again, so guess hope does spring eternal.
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Old 02-01-2019, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Fuquay Varina
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It's sad when we see that things we cherished get thrown on the junk heap. Many years ago, my squadron was assigned to the U.S.S Independence CVA-62 Was wondering about its status to find that it was decommissioned and mothballed at the Bremerton ship yard.
It will never become a static hotel.
I was on the USS America. Its now on the bottom of the atlantic!!
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Old 02-02-2019, 09:47 AM
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I was on the USS America. Its now on the bottom of the atlantic!!
We always thought that Gillette got her, just kidding I deployed with both the America and the Independence to the Med...

As for the SS United States perhaps its time to leave her at rest in a dignified way..
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Old Yesterday, 08:18 AM
 
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You know, sort of agree. Would have been better years ago if she were sent to the bottom with a dignified burial.


People get all misty eyed over the SS United States, as is their right I suppose; but there is nothing left of the old girl but a rusting hulk. Richard H. Hadley and subsequent owners largely looted the ship for anything of value that could be sold and as such stripped her not just of fittings but much more.


Modern SOLAS requirements means SS United States never will sail as a steam ship under her own power. Converting her to meet those new requirements including installing diesel electric proplusion would be huge undertaking/expense. Likely could build one or more new ships for less.


Then there the matter of her aluminum superstructure.


Still railroads are resurrecting old steam locomotives people once thought would never run again, so guess hope does spring eternal.

Well, if one could get the ship underway, then the start of conversion is to go find a carrier......ie, the Belknap?


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I was on the USS America. Its now on the bottom of the atlantic!!

At first, I was going to say that being on the shores of the Canaries is hardly on the bottom of the Atlantic......but then I saw that I had misread it.
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Old Yesterday, 08:19 AM
 
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A little worse for wear, but still a good looking ship.
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Old Yesterday, 08:29 AM
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Great idea!

America's enemies have always had the same goal -- to sink our ships during war. I still think it odd that we consider it a celebratory occasion when, after deeming our fighting ships spent and useless, we sink them ourselves.

But I'm an oddball, so....
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Old Yesterday, 09:32 AM
 
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Great idea!

America's enemies have always had the same goal -- to sink our ships during war. I still think it odd that we consider it a celebratory occasion when, after deeming our fighting ships spent and useless, we sink them ourselves.

But I'm an oddball, so....
I don't know very many sailors that celebrate when a ship they were assigned to was intentionally sank.

Its sad to see a part of history go beneath the waves but the knowledge gained from a live fire exercise is invaluable. Its not very often that they get to use actual weapons and sink an aircraft carrier. It helps make future ships safer, future weapons more effective.
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Old Yesterday, 08:30 PM
 
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I don't know very many sailors that celebrate when a ship they were assigned to was intentionally sank.

Its sad to see a part of history go beneath the waves but the knowledge gained from a live fire exercise is invaluable. Its not very often that they get to use actual weapons and sink an aircraft carrier. It helps make future ships safer, future weapons more effective.
There is a custom/tradition within maritime circles to see grand vessels sent to the bottom instead of scrapped. It is deemed a far more fitting and dignified way of ending their useful life.


Many moaned the same thing when the SS Normandie was gutted, cut up and sold for scrap. IIRC even a POTUS at the time stated it was far preferable for that great ocean liner (or what was left of her after a fire), to have been towed out to sea and sank.
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