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Old 02-04-2019, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ <-> Silicon Valley, CA
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There are so, so many awful stories like this now, they get lost in the shuffle. I was just reading last week about a young guy who murdered his parents and brother after they kicked him out of the house for stealing $200,000 from them over time, to feed an addiction to a woman on a porn chat site. 20 years ago, that story would have been front page news and talked about, and now it just slips by in a tidal wave of crazy.
It seems that way now but Iíve wondered if thatís really true that there are more incidents or if itís just that they get wider exposure.

Before the digital media giants, news was printed in national, regional, and local newspapers. A horrifying event like the 7 year old being murdered might have been confined to the local paper or perhaps a regional one.

Now the online media are looking for anything that will grab eyeballs, the bigger shock value the better. That practice makes it seem like the whole country has gone mad.
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Old 02-04-2019, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Riding a rock floating through space
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The "father" looks positively demonic, his mug shot is pretty much what I would have pictured after reading the story.
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Old 02-04-2019, 03:41 PM
 
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Sick! Evil beyond belief! He was court-placed to their care. Why?! I detect mental issues just looking at those two weirdos. Nobody in charge of the adoption process suspected a problem?

I'd wager that 99% of CD posters would have seen reason to investigate further before turning children over to those demented sickos. We may fight and bicker in here, but every one of us has more sense then those who have the power.

I don't think there was any kind of adoption process.


To me, it sounds like little Ethan and his siblings (the article didn't say how many siblings, that I could tell) were under guardianship to Timothy and Tina. Since they all share the same last name, I'm assuming the little boy who died, and his siblings were removed from a relative's home, and then put under Timothy and Tina's guardianship, because Timothy and Tina were related.


So, in short, the kids were probably removed from Timothy's brother's or sister's home.
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Old 02-04-2019, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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Before the digital media giants, news was printed in national, regional, and local newspapers. A horrifying event like the 7 year old being murdered might have been confined to the local paper or perhaps a regional one.

Exactly. A 7 year old girl was murdered one town over from me, about 25 years ago. Details similar to the murder of the boy, except no Bible memorization involved. Dad was in prison or dead, Mom was in a halfway house, prison, or rehab (I forget those details) and the little girl was left in the care of two women who were "friends" of her mother. They beat her to death with electrical cords one night, for no reason and the state child welfare agency was in hot water for a while. I don't think it made national headlines or was even carried in the local paper where I work 35 miles away.


It happens all the time. It has always happened. And there is never a reason.
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Old 02-04-2019, 04:55 PM
 
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It seems that way now but Iíve wondered if thatís really true that there are more incidents or if itís just that they get wider exposure.

Before the digital media giants, news was printed in national, regional, and local newspapers. A horrifying event like the 7 year old being murdered might have been confined to the local paper or perhaps a regional one.

Now the online media are looking for anything that will grab eyeballs, the bigger shock value the better. That practice makes it seem like the whole country has gone mad.
No, itís true. A story like this would have been national news. Itís not like no one in NJ knew if there was a family murdered in Wisconsin, things like that were a big deal. Normal child abuse might not have been known but today it isnít either, but a child murdered and in such an extreme way, would have been carried by the AP not only nationwide but some of these stories, worldwide. Heck, 5 people got gunned down in a bank in Florida last week and itís barely a blip, it would have been top story for weeks back then.

Even 5 years ago there didnít seem to be this many mass murders on a constant basis, and social media was already a presence then.
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Old 02-04-2019, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Texas
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It does not surprise me that it's yet another religious fundamentalist couple who adopt a child and abuse/ murder that child. These religions are very rigid and backwards in their beliefs and they also are fixated and obsessed with adopting and fostering children. Adoption is literally an obsession in Christian fundamentalist circles these days. Problem is, it's often for the wrong reasons.
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Old 02-04-2019, 08:09 PM
 
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It does not surprise me that it's yet another religious fundamentalist couple who adopt a child and abuse/ murder that child. These religions are very rigid and backwards in their beliefs and they also are fixated and obsessed with adopting and fostering children. Adoption is literally an obsession in Christian fundamentalist circles these days. Problem is, it's often for the wrong reasons.
Iím not sure if everyone read the article, but it was actually the 14-year-old brother who committed the murder and the beating. The parents are charged as accessories. Hey brother stated that he felt his life has been ruined since the boy and his sibling moved in, that they had taken all the ďfunĒ out of his life.

Not that I excuse the parents, they were abusive *******s, and they created the monster that is the 14-year-old by abusing him most likely. They were definitely crazy.

I will never understand what brand of Christianity some of these people practice where they think that this is not only acceptable but actually something God would approve of.
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Old 02-04-2019, 08:37 PM
 
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It does not surprise me that it's yet another religious fundamentalist couple who adopt a child and abuse/ murder that child. These religions are very rigid and backwards in their beliefs and they also are fixated and obsessed with adopting and fostering children. Adoption is literally an obsession in Christian fundamentalist circles these days. Problem is, it's often for the wrong reasons.

I was acquainted with 2 women who tried to do fostering because they thought they could make money doing it. They were from one of the huge non denominational churches.
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Old 02-04-2019, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I will never understand what brand of Christianity some of these people practice where they think that this is not only acceptable but actually something God would approve of.
There are some fundamentalist Christian parents who have caused the death of their children by beating them, because they followed the teachings of Michael Pearl. This has been in the news in recent years. He advocates physical abuse of children by beating them with pipes, tripping them to make them fall down, and other sick things. His books have been banned from Barnes & Nobles and other bookstores.

https://nogreaterjoy.org/
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Old 02-04-2019, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I was acquainted with 2 women who tried to do fostering because they thought they could make money doing it. They were from one of the huge non denominational churches.
That's sad. Of course I realize some people have good intentions and treat their foster kids well, but I've seen and heard of too many negative situations. Including the couple across the street from me who took in a foster child. That poor kid had to walk one hour to and from school every day. I'd see him out walking in all kinds of weather. The rumors in the neighborhood were that the parents treated their cats better than him. He was a great kid but the parents were weirdos.
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