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Old 02-19-2019, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Formerly Pleasanton Ca, now in Marietta Ga
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Originally Posted by rstevens62 View Post
'getting them off the street' should not be the ultimate goal, ensuring they do not do these things in the future is the real goal of punishment, learning from their mistakes in other words.
I don't know, all those years of crime she did, you really think you can teach her they ways of mistakes???
Some things get broken and can't be fixed.
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Old 02-19-2019, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Agreed 100%

But in the case of, say, the Las Vegas shooter, getting them off the street in the short term is probably a good idea.


Disagreed

As noted earlier, punishment is not an effective deterrent.
I'm not so sure. I don't think that the death penalty vs life makes a huge difference. But I do think that consequences have a lot to do with it. I know I've certainly been mad and thought, "you know what, consequences are not worth it" if I get arrested for a stupid fight of some sort.
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Old 02-19-2019, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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I really think the US needs to really pull our legal system together.
When you have predators making the laws, victims are not going to get a fair shake.
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Old 02-19-2019, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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It seems like a harsh sentence for a non-violent crime that the criminal confessed to. But I am sure many were happy to see this woman off the streets and I guess they have to send a message to others doing the same. Of course she will probably be out in 12 instead of the full 24 years.
She was stealing while out on bail for a commercial robbery, habitual offender. It's all there in the article to read
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Old 02-20-2019, 03:58 AM
 
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Your missing some of the context. She didn't get 24 years for nabbing a few Prime packages off the porch.

She got 24 years for:
-Violating her parole for burglary (it wasn't her first go around)
-multiple narcotics violations
-Burglary, which meant that she went into someone's house to steal things.
-Also some package thefts

So while it is a stiff sentence, and I'm not sure about paying for her next 24 years behind bars, I also don't think its some whacked out example of our failing justice system.

If you steal a bike sitting in a driveway, that's theft. If you steal a bike by entering the garage to take it, that's burglary. If you brandish a knife and say, "gimme your bike!" that's robbery.
I think it’s just the randomness of sentencing people object to. She gets 24 years when someone else gets 7 years for murder kind of thing.
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Old 02-20-2019, 05:10 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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She was stealing while out on bail for a commercial robbery, habitual offender. It's all there in the article to read
I read the article and I understand why we gave her 24 years.
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Old 02-20-2019, 10:29 PM
 
Location: StlNoco Mo, where the woodbine twineth
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Lampley was a thieving broad
Who stole from homes and yards
Her burglary skills were somewhat flawed
And now she's watched by guards.
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