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Old 03-07-2019, 08:49 AM
 
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the sister wives folks are not FLDS. i think the husband was from the AUB group.
They are fundamentalist Mormons. Not the same sect as 'The' FLDS, there are different sects OF 'FLDS'. No idea why Jeff's group gets the 'the' designation. AUB are also FLDS.
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Old 03-07-2019, 09:08 AM
 
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the sister wives folks are not FLDS. i think the husband was from the AUB group.
Just to clarify, since there obviously appears to be some confusion, here is a list of the various denominations in the "Latter Day Saint movement", along with their membership numbers (which are a year or so old) and the percentage of the total membership they represent:

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS) 15,882,417 97.99%
Community of Christ (RLDS) 250,301 1.54%
The Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite) 22,537 0.14%
Church of Jesus Christ with the Elijah Message 12,500 0.08%
Apostolic United Brethren 10,000 0.06%
Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (FLDS) 10,000 0.06%
Restoration Branches 10,000 0.06%
Church of Christ (Hedrickites) 7,310 0.05%
Fellowships of the remnants 5,000 0.03%
Church of Christ (Fettingite) 2,450 0.02%
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Strangite) 300 0.00%
Church of Jesus Christ (Cutlerite) 12 0.00%

Think of "the Latter Day Saint Movement" as being analogous to the "Protestant Reformation" and the individual denominations as analogous to the various Protestant denominations today. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS) has the overwhelming majority the members of the movement as a whole. The three groups I've put in colored font are the ones that seem to be confusing people in this thread. Several, but not all, of the groups are polygamists. Both the AUB and the FLDS have roughly the same number of members.
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Old 03-07-2019, 01:01 PM
 
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They are fundamentalist Mormons. Not the same sect as 'The' FLDS, there are different sects OF 'FLDS'. No idea why Jeff's group gets the 'the' designation. AUB are also FLDS.
no they are not
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Old 03-07-2019, 01:02 PM
 
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the sister wives folks are not FLDS. i think the husband was from the AUB group.
Sorry, I didn't mean that they were if the same sec. I was being a bit facetious. It didn't care me across that way in post. I guess I see the Warren Jeff's sec, FLDS, more as a criminal enterprise that a abuses and uses people.
If the Jeff's character purchased land to live out his days and not continue the abuses then I guess I don't mind. However, if it is going to be used to continue the abusive and illegal ways then I don't want them coming to my state. Hopefully the lawsuit filed against that group will seize the assets and the land purchased in Minnesota so we won't have to deal with them.
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Old 03-07-2019, 01:03 PM
 
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The Apostolic United Brethren (AUB) is a Mormon fundamentalist group that promotes polygamy. The AUB has had a temple in Mexico, since at least the 1990s, an endowment house in Utah since the early 1980s and several other locations of worship to accommodate their members in Wyoming and Montana
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostolic_United_Brethren
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Old 03-07-2019, 05:29 PM
 
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no they are not
Well, at least one person get it.
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Old 03-08-2019, 07:53 AM
 
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they may be a fundamentalist group, they are not FLDS. this is not that difficult.

there's a good series of podcasts here, more that you ever wanted to know. most of them relate to the FLDS but not all:

https://www.yearofpolygamy.com/archi...odes-in-order/



here's one on the AUB

https://www.yearofpolygamy.com/year-...ited-brethren/

here's one on the kingston group:

https://www.yearofpolygamy.com/year-...-county-co-op/
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Old 03-08-2019, 08:43 AM
 
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they may be a fundamentalist group, they are not FLDS. this is not that difficult.
You know what I think throws most people? The word "fundamentalist" is often used as an adjective to describe a group of people, typically those with a far right-wing perspective. And it's almost always used in a derogatory way. But in the case of the FLDS Church, the word is actually part of the name of the church. That's why there may be various groups within the Latter Day Saint Restorationist Movement that may be called "fundamentalists," there is only one Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and people who repeatedly say that this is not the case simply doesn't know what they're talking about, and are too stubborn to admit they were wrong.
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Old 03-08-2019, 11:52 AM
 
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You know what I think throws most people? The word "fundamentalist" is often used as an adjective to describe a group of people, typically those with a far right-wing perspective. And it's almost always used in a derogatory way. But in the case of the FLDS Church, the word is actually part of the name of the church. That's why there may be various groups within the Latter Day Saint Restorationist Movement that may be called "fundamentalists," there is only one Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and people who repeatedly say that this is not the case simply doesn't know what they're talking about, and are too stubborn to admit they were wrong.
you raise a good point. i suspect this is what is happening
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Old 03-08-2019, 12:27 PM
 
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they may be a fundamentalist group, they are not FLDS. this is not that difficult.

there's a good series of podcasts here, more that you ever wanted to know. most of them relate to the FLDS but not all:

https://www.yearofpolygamy.com/archi...odes-in-order/



here's one on the AUB

https://www.yearofpolygamy.com/year-...ited-brethren/

here's one on the kingston group:

https://www.yearofpolygamy.com/year-...-county-co-op/
That is what I said. They are *a* fundamentalist group. Separate from 'The' FLDS. 'The' FLDS is not the only sect of fundamentalist LDS.
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