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Old 02-20-2019, 11:24 AM
 
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I realize any impact will be minimal, but I was thinking that perhaps it may make things harder for people who actually plan their crimes, because they will have no control over this aspect of things. Your relatives can submit their DNA for analysis, so you have no control over it - who's gonna be able to keep track of what their 3rd cousins do?

It's fascinating to me that genealogists may become crime solvers in a way.
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Old 02-20-2019, 12:03 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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Impact is more than minimal. BTK and golden state killer crimes as far back as the '70s were both apprehended through family dna on genealogy sites.

Will it continue? I dont think anyone who uses these genealogy sites does so to solve crimes. Will it make some reluctant to use the sites accessable by LE? Probably so.
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Old 02-20-2019, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Nantahala National Forest, NC
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Impact is more than minimal. BTK and golden state killer crimes as far back as the '70s were both apprehended through family dna on genealogy sites.

Will it continue? I dont think anyone who uses these genealogy sites does so to solve crimes. Will it make some reluctant to use the sites accessable by LE? Probably so.

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Old 02-20-2019, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Well, of course it will lead to crime prevention. Criminals who are caught and locked up are prevented from committing further crimes. It will save lives by getting dangerous offenders off the streets.
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Old 02-20-2019, 02:22 PM
 
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Impact is more than minimal. BTK and golden state killer crimes as far back as the '70s were both apprehended through family dna on genealogy sites.

Will it continue? I dont think anyone who uses these genealogy sites does so to solve crimes. Will it make some reluctant to use the sites accessable by LE? Probably so.
I don't trust the cops a far as I can throw them. Had too many bad personal experiences despite a pretty law-abiding life. But I'm actually quite excited that my genetic information could be used to catch a murderer or rapist and I don't really care if it's someone I'm related to.
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Old 02-21-2019, 11:00 AM
 
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I realize any impact will be minimal, but I was thinking that perhaps it may make things harder for people who actually plan their crimes, because they will have no control over this aspect of things. Your relatives can submit their DNA for analysis, so you have no control over it - who's gonna be able to keep track of what their 3rd cousins do?

It's fascinating to me that genealogists may become crime solvers in a way.
So you are willing to let DNA analysis what—arrest people before they commit crimes???
Watching any Tom Cruise movies last night???

How do you feel about more stringent gun laws then???
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Old 02-21-2019, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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You have to wonder if some real bad criminals that could be caught with DNA are going around to their relatives asking them not to do a DNA/ancestry submission for feather of getting caught.
Try telling Aunt Joan that she shouldn't do it or tell her it's a bunch of hooey, don't waste your money on such silly nonsense.
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Old 02-21-2019, 02:57 PM
 
Location: NJ
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I realize any impact will be minimal, but I was thinking that perhaps it may make things harder for people who actually plan their crimes, because they will have no control over this aspect of things. Your relatives can submit their DNA for analysis, so you have no control over it - who's gonna be able to keep track of what their 3rd cousins do?

It's fascinating to me that genealogists may become crime solvers in a way.
Will genetic analysis websites lead to crime prevention?

I've been wondering too if people will wise up that LE are using genealogy databases to match DNA but will people think twice before committing the crime? Will the crime rate go down? If anything we'll see it in a few years. It's too soon to know how many bad people actually know about this.

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You have to wonder if some real bad criminals that could be caught with DNA are going around to their relatives asking them not to do a DNA/ancestry submission for feather of getting caught.
Try telling Aunt Joan that she shouldn't do it or tell her it's a bunch of hooey, don't waste your money on such silly nonsense.
I do wonder if they have been or haven't they heard about this yet?
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Old 02-21-2019, 05:54 PM
 
Location: southern kansas
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I realize any impact will be minimal, but I was thinking that perhaps it may make things harder for people who actually plan their crimes, because they will have no control over this aspect of things. Your relatives can submit their DNA for analysis, so you have no control over it - who's gonna be able to keep track of what their 3rd cousins do?

It's fascinating to me that genealogists may become crime solvers in a way.
I think you're giving the majority of criminals way too much credit for thinking ahead & planning what they're going to do. I seriously doubt if that happens very much. Many crimes are committed on the spur of the moment, by people who either think they're smart enough to not get caught, or don't think about it enough to care. I can't see the web sites in question having much impact, at least before the crime is committed. Even if by some technical breakthrough you could ID someone likely to commit a crime, you can't legally arrest that person before he actually does it. Last time I checked, Pre-Crime arrests still only happen in the movies. So for crime prevention... no, crime solving... yes.
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Old 02-21-2019, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Criminals don't think they will be caught. LE using genealogy websites won't stop their behavior unless you count the fact that they will be in jail and can't commit more bad acts. Their relatives will still post their DNA as they are unaware that they have a relative hiding from old crimes.

I think the detectives are doing great work!
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