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Old 02-26-2019, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Gallup, NM
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Think back to your elementary teachers and what they did, and how. Now think about the same things for high school. See any differences?
I remember my 5th grade reading teacher, Miss White, who looked like she was fresh out of college. She used to wear short shorts and a white t-shirt to class. One day, my classmate, Verna, gathered a couple of us around and said the following: "Do you know why Miss White has such long legs? It's because she eats frog legs! Yes, yes, if you eat frog legs, then you grow long legs like her." Verna said it with so much confidence and authority that she convinced most of us, lol.

In high school, I detested most of my teachers. They wore ties, sports jackets, khakis, business suits, etc, but they were jerks in the way they tortured their students, assigning so much reading, problem sets, critical essays, etc that we literally did nothing but study. My friends and I would lay on the floor in our dorm rooms, listening to "Ooh Child" and remind ourselves that things will get easier once we graduate and move on to college. Still, I love that school and miss those times.
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Old 02-26-2019, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Posting from my space yacht.
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I remember my 5th grade reading teacher, Miss White, who looked like she was fresh out of college. She used to wear short shorts and a white t-shirt to class. One day, my classmate, Verna, gathered a couple of us around and said the following: "Do you know why Miss White has such long legs? It's because she eats frog legs! Yes, yes, if you eat frog legs, then you grow long legs like her." Verna said it with so much confidence and authority that she convinced most of us, lol.

In high school, I detested most of my teachers. They wore ties, sports jackets, khakis, business suits, etc, but they were jerks in the way they tortured their students, assigning so much reading, problem sets, critical essays, etc that we literally did nothing but study. My friends and I would lay on the floor in our dorm rooms, listening to "Ooh Child" and remind ourselves that things will get easier once we graduate and move on to college. Still, I love that school and miss those times.
Perhaps if Miss White had been wearing those shorty shorts and flaunting those long legs around 12th grade students things would have turned out a bit differently.
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Old 02-26-2019, 12:29 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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So it's not a big problem then, and no solutions are necessary in your estimation. If only everyone else agreed with you, we wouldn't have to constantly hear about these situations.

If ever it does become a problem though, there is an obvious solution.
I personally think that it's rare enough that it's people, like you, who make it a problem. If anything, my sense is that it's less prevalent now than in the past due to criminal penalties that weren't there in the past.

If by "solution" you mean your idea I can only say this: for every complex problem there is a simple solution and it's wrong.

Some information for you:

https://www.eteach.com/secondary-schools

How primary and secondary teachers differ and why it matters
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Old 02-26-2019, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Posting from my space yacht.
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I personally think that it's rare enough that it's people, like you, who make it a problem. If anything, my sense is that it's less prevalent now than in the past due to criminal penalties that weren't there in the past.

If by "solution" you mean your idea I can only say this: for every complex problem there is a simple solution and it's wrong.

Some information for you:

https://www.eteach.com/secondary-schools

How primary and secondary teachers differ and why it matters
If you have no trust that our teachers are smart enough to evolve their skills over time I'm not going to argue, even if I don't agree. If there's no problem though it's kind of a moot point isn't it? Just whistle dixie and crack jokes about where those teachers were when I was a kid.
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Old 02-26-2019, 12:55 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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If you have no trust that our teachers are smart enough to evolve their skills over time I'm not going to argue, even if I don't agree. If there's no problem though it's kind of a moot point isn't it? Just whistle dixie and crack jokes about where those teachers were when I was a kid.
For the last I haven't done so.

For the first, I can't tell whether you really don't understand or just don't want to.

It has nothing to do with "evolving skills" but everything to do with personality and mind set. I was considered a master teacher during my career. A career spent in secondary. I might have been able to last until lunch in elementary, and I'm more flexible than most high school teachers.

It's the same in teaching as almost every career, due to your interests and personality you gravitate to what you will do. It's the same for law, carpentry, medicine, engineering, etc. Yes some of the base skills are the same and then you specialize. I have a really good primary doctor but when it comes to my prostate issues she handed me off to a urologist.

Teaching is the same, some people have the personality to do one but not the other.

And again, think back to the differences you can remember between elementary and high school (include 7th and 8th grades in the latter).
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Old 02-26-2019, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Gallup, NM
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Perhaps if Miss White had been wearing those shorty shorts and flaunting those long legs around 12th grade students things would have turned out a bit differently.
LOL. That is true.
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Old 02-26-2019, 04:06 PM
 
Location: BFE
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Whatever happened to Verna? I'd like to subscribe to her newsletter.
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Old 02-26-2019, 05:58 PM
 
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well, we had an English teacher (female) who had a smokin' body with a fugly face.
she showed off her assets in an acceptable way, for that time and that place.
she apparently tried lots of things to offset her face, but none worked well
enough for my friends. eventually, she got married to some rich guy and
quit teaching. some corrective surgery? do not know.
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Old 02-26-2019, 11:15 PM
 
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I think there is ALOT more of these types of 'relationships' going on than we think there is, the ones we hear about on the news weekly, are just the very small percentage who got caught red handed, the vast majority, likely go on for awhile until they mutually dissolve, and both people move on to see other people.


From my days in school, I knew about 4 girls that were involved with teachers or adults in authority positions, none of them or the adults, was ever caught or discovered. I didnt know any boys that were involved with adult females though. I will also say, all 4 of those girls, they were the initiators/ aggressors, of the 'hookup'.


While I was fairly popular in school, I still didnt know everyone, so besides the 4 girls I knew of, its likely there were a handful of other students involved in the same thing, that does put into a different perspective for sure!
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Old 02-27-2019, 02:07 AM
 
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I'm not excusing the criminal act whatsoever, but 23 is 5 years removed from high school age. There's nothing strange about a couple that's 23 and 28, they'd have plenty of things in common. The teachers under 50 that I've known as an adult prefer to teach in elementary or middle school, while the almost-retirees take on HS.
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