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Old 03-12-2019, 09:48 AM
 
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That Jaguar was about that LIFE! He went ham on that lady. You trying to take a pic with me.. Hell naw!
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Old 03-12-2019, 10:40 AM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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Anyone know how she crossed the barrier?

I know nuance isn't big on the internet or in people's brains, but there's a pretty big difference between jumping fully over the barrier, leaning over it, and sticking a hand over it.

I heard on the news last night that this is the second time this has happened at this zoo. If so, and depending on how the barrier was beached, perhaps it does need to be redone
Apparently she jumped over it. It's a waist high concrete barrier with shrubs between it the animal's fence. This video shows it pretty clear towards the 1:10 mark https://video.foxnews.com/v/60125279...#sp=show-clips
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Old 03-12-2019, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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To the extent they're capable of enjoyment... yeah, I bet they enjoy it more than dying from starvation or predation or combat with other wild animals or exposure to the elements.
Try capturing an animal from the wild and offer it a nice safe cage with food and see how how it reacts.
To the extent they are capable of enjoyment. To what extent do you believe they worry about starvation or "combat" or exposure to the elements?

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Yeah, I already get all of those things by being a member of a civilized society. That's why I live in a civilized society instead of like a feral animal in the wild.
yes and being human instead of a feral animal in the wild you would prefer human things and a feral animal in the wild prefers wild animal things. And thats the problem, people anthropomorphize animals. They forget wild animals are wild animals.
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Old 03-12-2019, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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You guys hijack every single thread thatís about an animal and a zoo.Why donít you make your case on your own thread instead of trying to piggyback off threads that already exist? The topic of the thread is not whether animals should be in zoos.
I was responding to another persons post.
The thread is :woman attacked by jaguar while taking selfie at Arizona zoo.
Why this happened is relevant to the thread.
Because wild animals are wild animals---- because people anthropomorphize animals
The poster I responded to was also anthropomorphize animals equating human wants/needs to that of animals kept in zoos.
Your free to use that ignore button or just dont read my posts.
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Old 03-12-2019, 11:36 AM
 
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Try capturing an animal from the wild and offer it a nice safe cage with food and see how how it reacts.
To the extent they are capable of enjoyment. To what extent do you believe they worry about starvation or "combat" or exposure to the elements?
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Cats basically domesticated themselves, you know ó pretty much as a safeguard against starvation, exposure to the elements, and other threats to their existence.
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Old 03-12-2019, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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Try capturing an animal from the wild and offer it a nice safe cage with food and see how how it reacts.
To the extent they are capable of enjoyment. To what extent do you believe they worry about starvation or "combat" or exposure to the elements?
Mankind has been doing it for tens of thousands of years. That's why there are billions of domesticated animals on this earth. That wouldn't have been possible had we not exploited their desire to avoid starvation and combat and exposure to the elements.
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Old 03-12-2019, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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Cats basically domesticated themselves, you know ó pretty much as a safeguard against starvation, exposure to the elements, and other threats to their existence.
Yes, all my neighbors have self domesticated jaguars, Mt. lions, bob cats, lions and tigers. They are quite common.
You know it was the abundance of prey (rats and mice) that attracted cats to human populations. Rats and mice were after the crops generated by humans. It was the pursuit of abundant food not the fear of starvation that led to domestication.
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Old 03-12-2019, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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Mankind has been doing it for tens of thousands of years. That's why there are billions of domesticated animals on this earth.
Capture is the key word here. They are domesticated through breeding in captivity. Eventually they become dependent on humans.
Wild/=domesticated.

A wild animal kept in captivity will not behave like a domesticated animal. Thus invade its space to get a selfie it might just take your arm off. Want a selfie with a cat best grab your domesticated kitty.
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Old 03-12-2019, 11:54 AM
 
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Yes, all my neighbors have self domesticated jaguars, Mt. lions, bob cats, lions and tigers. They are quite common.
You know it was the abundance of prey (rats and mice) that attracted cats to human populations. Rats and mice were after the crops generated by humans. It was the pursuit of abundant food not the fear of starvation that led to domestication.
SMH. No one claimed that your neighbors have self domesticated jaguars, etc. The comment was specific to their evolution as domestic pets.

Pursuit of abundant food and "fear of starvation" are pretty much the same instinct. Of course they were attracted to the rodents agricultural activity attracted. But they didn't stop there.
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Old 03-12-2019, 12:11 PM
 
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You really think captured wild animals enjoy being captive. They would run like heck the first chance they got. Even those born in captivity feel the call of the wild. A wild animal taking advantage of easy food supply dose not mean it would prefer captivity.
Do you think people prefer to be incarcerated because they worry about starvation or being murdered. Perhaps you should get yourself arrested so you can enjoy free shelter, protection and a free meal plan.

It sounds like you are the one here equating human needs with animals.



I know you are responding to this poster, but you do this on every single thread that is about wild animals, and you derail each of them by taking them off-topic. It's rude. Using the ignore button won't help because the entire thread becomes about the topic YOU want it to be about vs the one it started out to be.
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