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Old 03-13-2019, 03:38 PM
 
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For every kid that was fraudulently accepted to college, there was an honest, smart, hard working kid that was rejected acceptance.

Shame on the parents.

What a good example of a truly bad example of people that never should have been parents.
THIS!

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Old 03-13-2019, 03:38 PM
 
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Lori Loughlin's daughter has 2 million Youtube followers. That is impressive for an 18 year old. You would think her entrepreneurial success would have been enough to get her a holistic admission to USC. Her grades and SAT/ACT scores must have been horrendous.


My daughter applied to a specific undergraduate professional program at a very selective University. The program sent her the following email a week before admission letters were expected to be sent out:

Thank you for your interest in "University." We’re sorry that we were not able to accommodate you in the professional school program of your choice. However, the admissions committee would like to consider and evaluate you for admission into the College of Arts and Sciences if you are interested. Within the College, you can choose from nearly 50 majors across the academic disciplines.

If you are still interested in "University" and would like to be considered for admission to the College of Arts and Sciences, please reply to this email no later than Friday, April 8th, at 5:00 pm ET. Please include in your response your desired major from among the undergraduate degrees on this list.

I’m suspended to hear there was any program she wanted, considering she said she might it might not go to actual classes.

We look forward to hearing from you and wish you the best as you continue your education.


My daughter received her acceptance to a different program a week later.



I wonder if athletic programs have a lot of clout in getting a student admitted even if they are not accepted as an athlete. The student applies through an athletic program - the program denies their application, but recommends them to the University for admission. ??
Apparently they have slots they allow for coaches to recommend students they want in the team. I’d recommend Melissa McCarthy for gymnastics for $400,000!
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Old 03-13-2019, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Endless Concert
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If the parents were really concerned and cared so much about their child's education, they could and would have hired tutors when they were in grade school, then by the time they got to High School perhaps they would have had good enough grades to be considered for a college.

Instead they chose to cheat, lie and steal another kids/young adult future.

Terrible to teach these young adults it's better to cheat and be a fraud in life.

These young adults are learning that they're not good enough and/or smart enough so the parents create this path of deception and teach it's better to NOT be honest with yourself and try and deceive others ?!

Teaching young adults to live a life of smoke & mirrors is not living authentically.

How about teaching to be honest, work hard and stay focused.
This way the young adult will have self worth and integrity and will live an honest life where they'll feel proud and have self worth. They will be able to look at themself in the mirror and know who they are.

Talk about doing the wrong thing by ALOT !

Shame on the parents.
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Old 03-13-2019, 03:42 PM
 
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I'm not surprised at all. Many of these schools have acceptance rates of 1% or less of all applicants. Even coming from a privileged background doesn't give you enough "smarts" to be in the top 1%.

Intelligence is often genetic in nature. The best environment in the world won't make someone into a genius. The advantages that are conferred by wealth and privilege help motivated people bring out their potential, but the potential has to be there in the first place.

One issue that is seldom dealt with is why some universities restrict their enrollment to such a small group of applicants? Why not expand the number of seats for students? The reality is that these schools make a choice to be small and exclusive and they thrive on the notion that they can reject 99% of all applicants. Also, its why their degree is more valuable than the degree of say state colleges and universities.

This is really a story about wealth and privilege and how it runs our country. Sadly, I think America has declined in the last fifty/sixty years. We are not a meritocracy. We are an oligarchy where the wealthy and the privileged hold not only economic power, but political power as well.
USC and the other California schools are very large, as is University if Texas. I donít remember all of them but I do not think the majority were small boutique schools but large Universities.
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Old 03-13-2019, 03:52 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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For every kid that was fraudulently accepted to college, there was an honest, smart, hard working kid that was rejected acceptance.

Shame on the parents.

What a good example of a truly bad example of people that never should have been parents.
No shame necessary. Just put both parent and kid in jail, I guarantee nobody will cheat in the future. They all claimor to go to community college.
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Old 03-13-2019, 04:41 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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Also posted this book, The Price of Admission by Daniel Golden, in the thread about this in the Celebrities forum in the Entertainment section on City Data, but the book is worth mentioning here too:

https://www.amazon.com/Price-Admissi...y&sr=8-1-fkmr2

Read the chapter about Brown University. It will definitely open the eyes of anyone who is considering an "elite" school for their college-bound child. Reading this made me realize that those schools are mostly for making connections--not for actual academic rigor and broadening the intellect.

I am thinking about what these celebrities' children must be feeling about now. How terrible must it feel to find out your parents did this to secure your spot at Yale or Brown, mostly to feed Mom or Dad's huge ego and insecurities? That your own parent did not have enough faith or security to believe that you'd get into the school that was the best fit for you as a person?
That is a good book, and yes; the chapter on Brown is a real "eye opener".

This is why I am such a fan of smaller, lesser known "boutique" colleges and universities. The education is as good - or better, and schools in this group disproportionately send many students on to top graduate and professional schools. Without all of the "strum und drang".

These colleges may not be known by your Uncle, your neighbor, or sadly, your public school guidance counselor - but they ARE known where it counts - by academics and employers.

Why bother to apply to a university that accepts only seven percent of it's applicants? I'll never understand the allure.
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Old 03-13-2019, 05:57 PM
 
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Especially when you consider that these are kids who attended expensice private college prep schools OR public schools in weathy high performing districts all their lives. They had access to top notch educations in environments created to groom every little bit of potential a kid has and churn out an ideal elite college candidate at the other end. And their parents could afford all the tutoring and enrichment and extracurriculars anyone could dream of.

But they STILL couldn't get a high enough score on a standardized test to be considered to a halfway prestigeous school on their own.

It's mind boggling.
They still canít get into a top notch university because they are spoiled, selfish, self-entitled brats and didnít bother to study or do the work necessary to learn enough to win a slot at the best schools.
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Old 03-13-2019, 05:57 PM
 
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Affirmative action does not admit undeserving students. It waits the scale in favor of the minority in cases where two candidates are pretty equivalent. But you go ahead and keep drinking the billionaires Kool-Aid.ĒDonít look at us! Itís those brown people that are the problem they are the reason you donít get ahead!Ē
What if the scales are tipped in favor of minorities, and non-minorities are disadvantaged except for giving a donation? Is it really fair to legislate that people with certain characteristics should be given special consideration, or that disadvantaged groups should have to pay extra?

Who really screwed up?
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Old 03-13-2019, 05:59 PM
 
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What if the scales are tipped in favor of minorities, and non-minorities are disadvantaged except for giving a donation? Is it really fair to legislate that people with certain characteristics should be given special consideration, or that disadvantaged groups should have to pay extra?

Who really screwed up?
The parents.
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Old 03-13-2019, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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TAX EXEMPTION?
First off, no right can be subject to a tax by a government instituted to secure rights.
Second, all taxes are based on privileges.
Third, what government privilege is involved with operating a college that would impose a tax?
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