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Old 03-22-2019, 12:28 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Do away with it. I wish everyone could vote on it!
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Old 03-22-2019, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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And people going to work in the dark is no different than people going home or out to dinner or a movie or a club in the dark.
Except you have to do one, and the other is a choice, and you don't have people going out to dinner and a movie half-asleep.
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Old 03-22-2019, 01:24 PM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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Except you have to do one, and the other is a choice, and you don't have people going out to dinner and a movie half-asleep.
I sincerely hope people aren't driving in the dark in the morning half asleep either!
Regardless of the time the mechanics are the same. It's no more difficult to drive dark roads whether it's morning or night, if you are capable of one you are capable of both. I don't find it a good reason simply to say that people shouldn't have to drive in the dark just because it's morning.
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Old 03-22-2019, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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It would be really brilliant if, for example, NY, NJ, and CT decide on different systems.
NJ should go Standard only, NY DST only, and CT switching back and forth.
I am pretty sure about half of the population in NYC would be late for everything and people would need apps to tell them what time it is. lol
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Old 03-22-2019, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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This is the height of stupidity.
The whole reason for "high noon" was that was when the sun was highest in the sky.
Shifting clocks one hour ahead does not "save" daylight.
Why not just shift standard business hours instead of the clocks?

Not possible. The concept of what the different hours on the clock mean, in their relationship with our activities, have been ingrained in us since birth. Business or working hours are only one part of our daily activities, that are inseparably tied to the time of day. The integration of clocktime into the cores of modern humans, is one of the strongest forces in our lives. The majority of people would come unhinged without clocks regimenting every thing they do. Even if the sun comes up an hour earlier or later in our schedules, we still stick to the familiar numbers on the clocks, to regulate our every move. Those who go to bed at 11 pm during Standard Time, will mostly go to bed at 11 pm during Daylight Time.
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Old 03-22-2019, 06:33 PM
 
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But in December, you would still be dark a little after 6. Is that worth waking up before sunrise?
Yes. I'd rather it be dark in the morning and have a little daylight in the evenings. I have no energy in the winter when it gets dark by 5. I need some light.
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Old 03-22-2019, 08:52 PM
 
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This is the height of stupidity.
The whole reason for "high noon" was that was when the sun was highest in the sky.
Shifting clocks one hour ahead does not "save" daylight.
Why not just shift standard business hours instead of the clocks?
That's a great point. You win the thread.
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Old 03-22-2019, 09:00 PM
 
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Wouldn't it be a better solution for Texas to up their game education-wise or to have a better transport plan for children, than for the entire country to accommodate their deficiencies?
How did Texas get into the discussion? The problem is much worse as you go north, but I can say as someone who grew up in the south (33rd parallel) going to an elementary school one mile away that started at 8:30, the dark (and cold) is a big problem for kids waiting for buses.
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Old 03-22-2019, 09:04 PM
 
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Of course it does. We have birds--it takes them two weeks to adjust to the sun coming up and going down at different times.
They're not adjusting to that (any more than usual). They're adjusting to their master having a new schedule.
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Old 03-22-2019, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The rooster crows when the sun comes up, not when his alarm clock goes off.

The only thing that changes is what time you (i.e. human) have to go to work, or school, or whatever humans have to do. The day is just as long with or without DST as far as the birds are concerned.
This is just not true. I know because I have had to deal with roosters for 35 years. They will crow for any reason. When they are hungry, or feel threatened or if they feel their flock is threatened. And they will crow as early as 4 in the morning, or in the evening.
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