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Old 03-23-2019, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Riding a rock floating through space
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Story doesn't ring true.

Guns going off from falling to the ground is actually extremely rare, more a product of Hollywood than anything else. Also, how do you pick up a shoe with a gun in it and not notice that your shoe weighs 3-4 pounds.
Could have been one of those North American arms 22 pocket revolvers - they could possibly fit in a shoe and if he kept it with the hammer back (way beyond stupid) it has no trigger guard so I could see it falling and going off on impact with the floor. Other than that, not sure what other gun this story would make sense with.


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Old 03-23-2019, 02:39 PM
 
Location: 912 feet above sea level
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I find it sad that a man in a wheelchair lives in a cockroach infested home and feels the need to keep a loaded gun in his shoe.

That being said, I don't understand how, after removing his shoe, the gun didn't fall out and clatter harmlessly to the floor. It actually went flying across the room with the shoe? Where did he stash that gun, in the toe section?

As usual, too much information is missing. Unfortunately, that's journalism today.
Did you even read the article? The information comes from a police statement. Do you really think the person giving the statement - who is undoubtedly someone in communications, not a street officer - knows precisely how the gun was stashed in the shoe, and why it didn't fall out?

You act like in 'the good old days' Woodward and Bernstein would have been assigned to track down the Mystery of the Shoe Gun. That's not how it works today, and that's not how it ever worked. This is a minor little human interest story, nothing more.

None of that ever occurred to you before you used this story as an excuse to carp about the media, did it?
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Old 03-23-2019, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Nantahala National Forest, NC
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he would have been better to just shoot the cockroach. I'm mildly surprised he didn't try to.
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Old 03-23-2019, 06:14 PM
 
Location: east TN
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Story doesn't ring true.

Guns going off from falling to the ground is actually extremely rare, more a product of Hollywood than anything else. Also, how do you pick up a shoe with a gun in it and not notice that your shoe weighs 3-4 pounds.



Girlfriend of my wife carries a tiny single shot .22 that you could conceal in your hand and doesn't weigh but a few ounces. I asked her once if she had to actually pull it, was she expecting the perp to die of laughter ?
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Old 03-23-2019, 06:20 PM
 
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Umm, I have my doubts about this. Unless the revolvers hammer was cocked this is more than unlikely. Besides the fact you'd think he'd have noticed the shoe was a tad on the heavy side. But this is a negligent discharge excuse I haven't heard before.
Could be a single action with a bullet under the hammer. Or a pos SNS
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Old 03-24-2019, 10:48 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Could be a single action with a bullet under the hammer. Or a pos SNS

Single and double actions haven't been made pinned and recessed in decades. It's all transfer bar. As for it being an SNS of some sort maybe. But I just can't buy off on this. It's just to....wild. The shoe would have cushioned impact on the hammer and this is just flat out there.
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Old 03-24-2019, 11:24 AM
 
Location: BFE
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Makes you wonder how he ended up in that wheelchair.
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Old 03-24-2019, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Midwestern U.S.
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Did you even read the article? The information comes from a police statement. Do you really think the person giving the statement - who is undoubtedly someone in communications, not a street officer - knows precisely how the gun was stashed in the shoe, and why it didn't fall out?

You act like in 'the good old days' Woodward and Bernstein would have been assigned to track down the Mystery of the Shoe Gun. That's not how it works today, and that's not how it ever worked. This is a minor little human interest story, nothing more.

None of that ever occurred to you before you used this story as an excuse to carp about the media, did it?

I, too, thought it was an extremely poorly-written story. No who, why, or how, and barely a what or where. The link posted was to a Detroit news article. Carping on this work of the media is entirely justified. It's not even high school newspaper-quality work.



Since you say there's information from a police report, please post a link to that, instead of merely carping on another poster's comment.
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Old 03-24-2019, 02:05 PM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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Did you even read the article? The information comes from a police statement. Do you really think the person giving the statement - who is undoubtedly someone in communications, not a street officer - knows precisely how the gun was stashed in the shoe, and why it didn't fall out?

None of that ever occurred to you before you used this story as an excuse to carp about the media, did it?
A real journalist would have read the police report, then interviewed people: the officer on the scene, the EMTs, witnesses, the coroner, etc.

Now they just scan police reports, find one that is interesting, select the text, Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V, and voila! You just "wrote" a news article.
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Old 03-24-2019, 03:37 PM
 
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I bet the cockroach is still laughing.
Yes instant Karma!!!
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