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Old Today, 05:12 AM
 
Location: SW Florida
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OMG The spire has collapsed.
When I saw this I cried because it reminded me of when the World Trade Center collapsed on 9/11. I hope survivors and witnesses to that day aren't having too many issues. It's sad that a cathedral that has stood for hundred of years and went through wars, revolutions and natural disasters has sustained so much damage.
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Old Today, 05:51 AM
 
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No surprise that America’s reliable old canard is trotted out, check out Marquis de Lafayette, and the role of the French navy at Yorktown in 1781, bottling up Cornwallis escape route, if not for those guys, you may have been living in a country called Southern Canada today.



Maybe you were watching the wrong Channels, I watched a lot of it on France 24 Channel, they showed a whole slew of fire trucks, and reported that 400 firefighters attended, with one being seriously injured, one slightly, and one cop slightly injured also.



It happens at most national disasters with Heads of State, King George V1 and Queen Elizabeth were often filmed in London during WW2, after the East End had suffered a visit from the Luftwaffe, I guess it’s to say, “we identify with the people, we’re in it together.”



The Brigade des Sapeurs-Pompiers de Paris, (Paris Fire Brigade), is a French army unit which serves as the primary fire and rescue service for Paris, their motto is, “Sauver ou Périr” (Save or perish).
They have the latest in fire fighting equipment, but admittedly not enough for fighting fires in taller buildings.
They have water carrying helicopters, and access to Army helicopters, but the smart money said that dropping water from a great height on to Notre Dame could do more damage than good, as the building might not stand the weight of the water.
Thank you for your post. As an American, I am often embarrassed by the obnoxiousness of my compatriots vis-à-vis their attitude towards other nations and their penchant for viewing events in the rest of the world through an American prism.

Now that we are able to see that most of this magnificent structure is still standing--even much of the interior woodwork--I'm confident that the firefighters knew what they were doing. There were 13,000 trees worth of wood in that medieval building, so it didn't take much for the fire to spread quickly.

Visitors to Paris are drawn to Notre-Dame like a moth to a flame, Catholics and non Christians alike. It is impossible to enter that building without being moved by the faith of those who built it. While most are dazzled by its sheer grandeur, I get emotional at the little things: the intricately carved stone, the delicate woodwork, the tiny shards of colored glass cut to exact precision to fit the smallest windows. I imagine the pride of the hundreds of artists, old and young, male and female, who spent their entire lives contributing their divine gifts for the benefit of generations of pilgrims they would never know and to a church that they never got to see completed.

I know it will be a monumental task to rebuild Notre-Dame de Paris the way it was, but I also know the French. When it comes to historical restoration, they are the best. Since Notre-Dame de Paris is so beloved by so many around the planet, I imagine the world's best craftsmen will eagerly volunteer to recreate what was so tragically lost by yesterday's fire.
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Old Today, 06:11 AM
 
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I read French billionaire Francois Henri Pinault pledged $113 million toward reconstructing the cathedral and fellow billionaire Bernard Arnault and his LVMH group pledged $226 million.
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Old Today, 06:34 AM
 
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I read French billionaire Francois Henri Pinault pledged $113 million toward reconstructing the cathedral and fellow billionaire Bernard Arnault and his LVMH group pledged $226 million.
A Go Fund Me page was started during the fire. Not sure how legit, but here is the link: https://www.gofundme.com/reconstruct...dame-cathedral
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Old Today, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Any news on the famous stained glass windows? Also I wonder how many gargoyles survived this? And where is the crown of thorns at this point? I heard it was safe.
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Old Today, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Seminole County, FL
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A Go Fund Me page was started during the fire. Not sure how legit, but here is the link: https://www.gofundme.com/reconstruct...dame-cathedral
I highly doubt this is legit... $5,000? Really?
Paris does not need $5,000...
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Old Today, 06:48 AM
 
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I highly doubt this is legit... $5,000? Really?
Paris does not need $5,000...
Agree, while that's a nice gesture of donating $5,000 to the church, it's going to take hundreds of millions to rebuild it and two French billionaires have already pledged a combined $330 million in US dollars. I would assume there was insurance as well, maybe not?
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Old Today, 07:00 AM
 
Location: London U.K.
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Thank you for your post. As an American, I am often embarrassed by the obnoxiousness of my compatriots vis-à-vis their attitude towards other nations and their penchant for viewing events in the rest of the world through an American prism.
Thanks for that JMT, having many friends spread out across the U.S. of A., I’m aware that it is only a very small minority of your compatriots that harbo(u)r an irrational dislike of France and the French.
However, being of French extraction, such undeserved insults royally pi$$ me off.
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Old Today, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Williamsburg, VA
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What a heart breaking sight. I'm so glad it wasn't totally destroyed. Notre Dame may not be the same, but it will survive and in many ways be stronger after this. This is Holy Week, and in a strange way this fire now means Notre Dame will become a symbol of resurrection. It faced destruction, but somehow survived; and in particular most of the treasures survived, along with the Rose Window. There will be sermons about what makes up the heart and soul of Notre Dame, drawing parallels to the challenges facing the heart and soul of the catholic religion itself, and to the challenges facing the heart and soul of each one of us.
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Old Today, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Nice to see the donations rolling in. I also saw the billionaires doing the donating are already lobbying for it to be a 90% tax write off. Wouldn't this mean the citizens end up paying for the majority of these donations?

Also be careful who you donate to, so many scams out there already.
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